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re: Penalty for using fake service dog?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:32 pm to el duderino III
Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:32 pm to el duderino III
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I'm with you, but there's zero chance that happens. The only thing they could do is make her leave for not having the right documentation.
Under federal law (ADA) there is no right documentation. They could make her take the dog out because she does not have a disability
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:48 pm to Broke
quote:what in the actual frick of fricks? unless someone is deaf/blind/ wtf would they want to haul a dog around in a vest and dumb badge for?
My friend is getting a divorce. His wife is withholding his service dog. I saw her at a store using it as her service dog complete with vest etc. She has no disabilities. I would love to get her arrested for this. Since she's being a huge bitch about the divorce.
I saw one in Publix and the person looked fine.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:15 pm to cajunangelle
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what in the actual frick of fricks? unless someone is deaf/blind/ wtf would they want to haul a dog around in a vest and dumb badge for?
I saw one in Publix and the person looked fine.
We go into Publix all the time. My son is not deaf or blind and he looks fine, but he still has a disability and his service dog has saved his life, literally.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:32 pm to lsunurse
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Legally...we can only ask if the animal is a service animal and what function they serve.
That's bullshite! And if not, I'm going to start taking my dog with me everywhere.
What function does he serve? He warns me when an a-hole is around.
If the law is actually written in that manner, then it is useless and the product of dumbass lawyers.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:47 pm to Boudreaux35
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That's bullshite! And if not, I'm going to start taking my dog with me everywhere.
What function does he serve? He warns me when an a-hole is around.
If the law is actually written in that manner, then it is useless and the product of dumbass lawyers.
FAQ on Service Animals and the ADA
Q7. What questions can a covered entity's employees ask to determine if a dog is a service animal?
A. In situations where it is not obvious that the dog is a service animal, staff may ask only two specific questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? Staff are not allowed to request any documentation for the dog, require that the dog demonstrate its task, or inquire about the nature of the person's disability.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:52 pm to Camaro
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Q7. What questions can a covered entity's employees ask to determine if a dog is a service animal?
A. In situations where it is not obvious that the dog is a service animal, staff may ask only two specific questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? Staff are not allowed to request any documentation for the dog, require that the dog demonstrate its task, or inquire about the nature of the person's disability.
So, questions are allowed to be asked. What constitutes a disability worth of having a service animal? How can you prove I do not have a mental disability? If I am not required to demonstrate the animal's ability then asking the question is worthless.
My story: I have a mental disability that results in sudden outbursts of rage. My service animal responds by calming my rage. Now leave me alone or I will claim harassment.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:10 pm to Boudreaux35
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So, questions are allowed to be asked. What constitutes a disability worth of having a service animal? How can you prove I do not have a mental disability? If I am not required to demonstrate the animal's ability then asking the question is worthless.
My story: I have a mental disability that results in sudden outbursts of rage. My service animal responds by calming my rage. Now leave me alone or I will claim harassment.
Under federal law "Disability means, with respect to an individual, a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more of the major life activities of such individual; a record of such an impairment; or being regarded as having such an impairment.
(2) The phrase major life activities means functions such as caring for one´s self, performing manual tasks, walking, seeing, hearing, speaking, breathing, learning, and working. "
Calming may or may not be a task, how does it calm you?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:14 pm to Broke
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Penalty for using fake service dog?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:16 pm to Camaro
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Calming may or may not be a task, how does it calm you?
You aren't allowed to ask that question.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:20 pm to Broke
I've always wondered this. I enjoy having the dog with me when going out to run errands.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:25 pm to Boudreaux35
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You aren't allowed to ask that question.
Yes a business can because you have not answered what task your dog is trained to perform with an appropriate task.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:27 pm to Camaro
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Yes a business can because you have not answered what task your dog is trained to perform with an appropriate task.
OK, the pitch of his bark triggers a reaction in my brain to subdue the rage mentioned previously.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:33 pm to Broke
That's fricked up.
Get with the lawyer, the dog could be considered personal property and or she can be withholding medical assistance from him.
Get with the lawyer, the dog could be considered personal property and or she can be withholding medical assistance from him.
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His wife is withholding his service dog.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:41 pm to Broke
You never know she might just have a therapist's prescription for the dog. You know, for all the trauma your buddy is causing her in the divorce. The only thing making life tolerable for her right now is knowing that she can steal your friend's dog, take it everywhere she freakin goes, and no one can challenge her about it
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:45 pm to Boudreaux35
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OK, the pitch of his bark triggers a reaction in my brain to subdue the rage mentioned previously.
The ADA makes a distinction between psychiatric service animals and emotional support animals. If the dog has been trained to sense it is about to happen and take a specific action to help avoid the attack or lessen its impact, that would qualify as a service animal. However, if the dog's mere presence provides comfort, that would not be considered a service animal under the ADA.
It is very rare for a service dog to be trained to bark as a task. "Under control also means that a service animal should not be allowed to bark repeatedly in a lecture hall, theater, library, or other quiet place."
Even service dogs can be legally removed if they are not under control or housebroken. That is the balancing part of the law. It gives the benefit of the doubt to the person with a service dog being allowed in but gives the business the right to remove a service dog for behavior.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:56 pm to Chad504boy
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bet you can blackmail him for a BJ easily.
Of course you’d immediately try to make the thread gay
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:57 pm to cubsfan5150
the thread is 8 years and some shitbag bot bumped it 
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:03 pm to Broke
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My friend is getting a divorce. His wife is withholding his service dog. I saw her at a store using it as her service dog complete with vest etc. She has no disabilities. I would love to get her arrested for this. Since she's being a huge bitch about the divorce.
Standing. You don’t have it here.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:04 pm to Broke
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:12 pm to pussywillows
No telling how gay chad504boy is now then
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