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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:58 pm to crimsonsaint
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:58 pm to crimsonsaint
I only recently crossed over from design consulting to construction, so the business end is relatively new to me.
Definitely gives me a wider perspective on whats going on
Definitely gives me a wider perspective on whats going on
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:04 am to NYNolaguy1
And that 5% bid bond would be for 5% of the the bid amount that the contractor submitted. Not what it cost someone else to build it.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:16 am to Picayuner
quote:Wow. Yep, scratch that one off the list.
Don’t know how to link but articles about the WWII hotel were in newspapers recently. As each floor was poured, each sagged creating a need for more support throughout. Not staying there. Google it
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:23 am to crimsonsaint
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have read more spec books than any should have to.
now I know you are lying
nobody reads the spec book ??
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:29 am to cgrand
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now I know you are lying
nobody reads the spec book ??
Ctrl F with specific keywords, then go back and read.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:00 am to kengel2
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Ctrl F with specific keywords, then go back and read.
Designers tend to use Ctrl C Ctrl V on the specs. That’s why they suck.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:09 am to busbeepbeep
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This civil/structural shite all greek to me. Just give me some supports for my cable tray.
Screw your cable tray. I want my pipe to go there. Find somewhere else.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:35 am to Martini
This is interesting... dude says the collapse started at the non-Canal side of the structure...
Structural engineer Walter Zehner
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"The one thing I find hard to understand is the collapse started at the rear of the building (by Rampart and Iberville streets) but it wound up, you had collapsed slabs all the way on the front end of the build which is 300 feet away (on Canal Street)," he said. "So I don’t know how that progression worked like that. I guess that’s part of what the investigation is going to reveal.”
Structural engineer Walter Zehner
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:43 am to Meauxjeaux
Good ole Walter. Dude practiced without a license for years and is known for his cheap designs.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:11 am to BigPerm30
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Designers tend to use Ctrl C Ctrl V on the specs. That’s why they suck.
shite, if you're lucky. I worked for a firm where they had highlighted portions that they would allow us to edit. The rest remained. This was a purchased spec. The Contractors would call me and ask "what conduit am I supposed to use, there are (5) choices." I had a hard time giving them the answer. I hated working there.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:18 am to busbeepbeep
quote:then a fire breaks out.
This makes me glad I do electrical, controls, and instrumentation.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:00 am to TigerstuckinMS
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quote:
This civil/structural shite all greek to me. Just give me some supports for my cable tray.
Screw your cable tray. I want my pipe to go there. Find somewhere else.
What's a cable tray?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:15 am to CarRamrod
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Note 12 talks about TS reinforcement in slabs. But still not very clear
Overall those notes are horrible, but they are very vague essentially saying, follow all codes. Gonna leave the engineer some wiggle room so long as his calcs are good.
I get drawings with notes like this all of the time to review and the firm's hate when I make them add all kids of language and charts but it's CYA because the contractor (well most anyways) will take short cuts. Got to be conservative to account for that and 99% suck major arse at QC.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:39 am to tokenBoiler
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This makes my skin crawl.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:41 pm to TigerstuckinMS
How will the Tropical Storm impact this disaster?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:19 pm to Meauxjeaux
CONSENT ORDER AGAINST WALTER ZEHNER
dude practiced as a PE for 8 YEARS without a license
dude practiced as a PE for 8 YEARS without a license
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:33 pm to cgrand
Looking at the video it does look like it started in the non-canal side. I'm not sure what that means though.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:37 pm to cgrand
Was he an engineer on hard rock job?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:37 pm to The Mick
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Was he an engineer on hard rock job?
The article said he had association with it a few years ago, but the project had a different scope then.
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