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re: Parkway High (La.) Sends Letter Out Stating All Players Must Stand For The Anthem
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'M SORRY OK I ONLY READ PAGE 5
How about don't be lazy next time?
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:08 pm to Antonio Moss
listen i'm proving the term "white privilege" doesn't exist in another thread. i can't solve ALL the world's problems in one day
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:09 pm to fouldeliverer
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Correct.
Got it
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:09 pm to The Dudes Rug
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Nope. They have to follow to the rules.
So I quote a court case where our Supreme Court ruled against a school who had unconstitutional rules, and you insist that the same rules must still always be followed.
Did I miss something?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:10 pm to NYNolaguy1
They will all be standing Friday. Quote/link whatever you desire.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the biggest variable is this being an extracurricular activity
Though as Moss has pointed out, schools have more discretion with extracurriculars limiting political speech would not be justifiable. Besides, ECs as a whole are pretty fundamental to high school life, and now more than ever are quite relevant on college applications. Prohibiting a student from participating in ECs for essentially not standing for the pledge would not be upheld. Not with such a firm precedent established in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:12 pm to The Dudes Rug
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They will all be standing Friday. Quote/link whatever you desire.
So now theres no legal basis, just that they will be standing come Friday night.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:12 pm to fouldeliverer
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limiting political speech would not be justifiable.
we don't know that
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. Besides, ECs as a whole are pretty fundamental to high school life
not according to jurisprudence. i mean schools can completely violate your 4th amendment right for being in an ECA, why do you think they can't completely violate your 1st amendment right as well?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we don't know that
Of course, we don't know it, it is my opinion
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not according to jurisprudence. i mean schools can completely violate your 4th amendment right for being in an ECA, why do you think they can't completely violate your 1st amendment right as well?
Because there are Supreme Court precedents that acknowledge a student's right political speech as more protected than other rights. Students do not get the same rights adults on the street get. Many cases establish that. Typically, the courts seem to give the schools the benefit of the doubt but are more inclined to side with students if it is regarding political speech.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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not according to jurisprudence. i mean schools can completely violate your 4th amendment right for being in an ECA
I'd imagine theres a compelling reason to limit your 4th amendment rights via drug testing- student safety, community safety, etc.
Is there an equally compelling reason to make students only students that stand for the anthem eligible to play in a sport?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
I'm gotta grade about 200 essays on Federalism. I won't have much time to reply. Trust me I'd love to discuss it with you, as you're knowledgeable and opinionated but just don't have much time.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:21 pm to tke857
How about the people in the bleachers, the band, coaches?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:23 pm to jbgleason
My bad totally missed the gist of your post.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:25 pm to fouldeliverer
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Not with such a firm precedent established in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette.
But as SFP and others have mentioned, in Barnette students were being expelled from school for refusing to cite the pledge not being prohibited from engaging in ECA And the Court has established precedent that prohibiting pariticpation in ECA does not violate a least one fundamental right (unlawful search)
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:29 pm to tke857
Makes me proud to live in Bossier Parish. I don't like all the outraged republicans looking like SJW babies over this dumb shite. But I don't mind a superintendent dropping nuts on errbody.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:31 pm to fouldeliverer
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I'm gotta grade about 200 essays on Federalism
If it don't say "the division of government power between a central authority and political subunits" just throw it away.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:18 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Is there an equally compelling reason to make students only students that stand for the anthem eligible to play in a sport?
Is there a law or constitutional provision that says a student has to make good grades to play in sports? It is mentioned a lot in school district bylaws or code of conduct etc. but not in a legal sense.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:22 pm to Dizz
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If Parkway is a public school they are going to get a call from the ACLU pretty soon. This isn't exactly constitutional.
Sports fall under extra curricular activities and are a privilege not a right.
The studebts right is the right to a free and appropriate public education.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:25 pm to YeahYeah
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The studebts right is the right to a free and appropriate public education.
There is actually no right to education
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:44 pm to Antonio Moss
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There is actually no right to education
Actually the 14th amendment gives children the right to a free public education as long as they are in the schools jurisdiction. It applies to public elementary and secondary schools, as they are considered to be state actors.
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