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Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:23 pm to lrabor3
quote:Seriously. People always see things differently because it's their own parents but if anyone else was telling you that story of them doing that to their kid, it usually hits a bit differently then.
shite dude, I feel bad for you.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:36 pm to shel311
quote:You're point that "quickly smacking your children won't solve your problems"
Pretty sure you entirely missed my point, but that's fine.
My point is - sometimes children, particularly boys need the threat for a physical repercussions in order to behave correctly.
If my child misbehaves and other techniques do not work but then a spank does and he's a better adjusted kid for it then I'm doing it.
He listens better, he hits less, and he behaves in social settings (restaurants, planes etc) better because he knows if he doesn't the his daddy will pop his arse. I will not apologize for doing what's worked for millennia's.
I'm 30 and I'm sick and tired of all of these new age jackasses thinking that they know better than everyone who has come before them.
I don't use a belt or a switch on him but that open handed pop on the rear end works like a damn charm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:40 pm to Ingeniero
quote:Please tell me more 20 year old without children.
But you absolutely can parent with positive reinforcement
quote:So you just gonna ignore fatherhood rates completely now?
If spanking were a highly effective discipline tool, black and Hispanic kids would be the best behaved ever.
Talk about an oversimplification.
How about you join the conversation when you actually have a child but first answer me this- if your kid starts biting other kids at his school how you gonna positive reinforce your way out of it?
What if he won't stay in timeout because what are you gonna do- hold his face in the corner?
And let's say when you take away his toys he doesn't care.
Educate me- please.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:41 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:Classic - I let me 3 year old have an iPad here. Guaranteed
Lazy parenting. There are more effective ways to discipline. Those techniques take effort, which is why lazy parents still spank.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:41 pm to Solo Cam
Ya'll can call me whatever stupid names you want, but I don't believe in spanking.
I never have and never will spank my girls. I'm sure it works to instill fear. But I don't want them afraid of me because I'll hit them.
I want them to be afraid of disappointing me. I don't think beating them would achieve that.
I never have and never will spank my girls. I'm sure it works to instill fear. But I don't want them afraid of me because I'll hit them.
I want them to be afraid of disappointing me. I don't think beating them would achieve that.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:43 pm to Solo Cam
quote:And my point is you didn't just do it 1 time and that was that, you have had to do it multiple times. That was the discussion being had, that you can spank a 1 year old one time and never had to worry about him doing that thing again. Not my words, but that was what was being stated. That is absolutely not so.
If my child misbehaves and other techniques do not work but then a spank does and he's a better adjusted kid for it then I'm doing it.
quote:More to the point, it was that it won't immediately solve that problem and you can just assume 1 smack and you never have to worry about that again.
You're point that "quickly smacking your children won't solve your problems"
quote:Again, not a knock on you but this proves what I'm saying in relation to what I was replying to. He hits less, he didn't get popped 1 time and then never hit anyone again. That's all I was replying to previously.
He listens better, he hits less
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:43 pm to High C
I’m over 35 but I didn’t spank my kids when they were younger. Physical violence to get someone to behave like you want is not a lesson I wanted to teach them
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:44 pm to Solo Cam
It's REALLY obvious who has actually raised an iron headed boy vs who hasn't in this thread
I know some people who are all 100% positive reinforcement, and their little boys are spoiled assholes. The parents are just too starstruck with their little man to see it.
I know some people who are all 100% positive reinforcement, and their little boys are spoiled assholes. The parents are just too starstruck with their little man to see it.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:48 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I'm early 40s and think the idea of spanking a 1 year old terrible. That's a baby.
My two year old has pushed me to the limits, but I'd never spank her.
She's hit and scratched before. I teach her not to do that and to touch gently and it works. Hitting her for hitting seems stupid.
My two year old has pushed me to the limits, but I'd never spank her.
She's hit and scratched before. I teach her not to do that and to touch gently and it works. Hitting her for hitting seems stupid.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:50 pm to RT1941
quote:Jesus a dog leash?
The wife always spanked our kids with anything she could get her hands on, switch/magazine/wood spoon/fly flap/belt/dog leash
quote:Probably why your wife had to spank them, you weren't being an effective disciplinarian.
Let me come home and take them to their room for a stern conversation and I rarely if ever had to physically touch them.
I don't know your life or anything about you but if your wife was resorting to hitting your children with dog leashes snd you never spanked them at all then 1 or 2 things have to be true:
1) Your wife is literally a psychopath and shouldn't the allowed around children.
2) Your children were bad and were never scared of their father disciplining them so their mother had to go over the top to try and keep them in line.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:52 pm to ghost2most
quote:Never spanked my little girls either, literally not one time. Timeout snd taking toys away works.
Ya'll can call me whatever stupid names you want, but I don't believe in spanking.
I never have and never will spank my girls. I'm sure it works to instill fear. But I don't want them afraid of me because I'll hit them.
quote:Oh an open handed spank on the butt is now "beating". I'll call you that name now- Pussy.
I want them to be afraid of disappointing me. I don't think beating them would achieve that
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:54 pm to shel311
Name one discipline technique ever that you can do once snd the kid never misbehaves again.
Obviously it's not a magic wand that makes the child into the perfect citizen.
Raising a child isn't about immediate results and they instantly become you hope of them. It's a growth slowly over time and you mold them to give them all the tools in the world to be successful and a positive force onto the world,
For boys the main thing they need in my opinion is discipline.
Obviously it's not a magic wand that makes the child into the perfect citizen.
Raising a child isn't about immediate results and they instantly become you hope of them. It's a growth slowly over time and you mold them to give them all the tools in the world to be successful and a positive force onto the world,
For boys the main thing they need in my opinion is discipline.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:56 pm to Solo Cam
Name one discipline technique ever that you can do once snd the kid never misbehaves again.
Hang them, problem solved
Hang them, problem solved
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:56 pm to Solo Cam
You are really passionate about this
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Painfully obvious man. Or who was a hardheaded boy too.
It's REALLY obvious who has actually raised an iron headed boy vs who hasn't in this thread
quote:They're the exact same people that make sure everyone gets a trophy.
I know some people who are all 100% positive reinforcement, and their little boys are spoiled assholes. The parents are just too starstruck with their little man to see it.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:59 pm to Solo Cam
quote:That's my point. I never said any one technique would work, but multiple posters did indeed say 1 spanking and they'd never do that behavior again, so yes, it sounds like we're in agreement.
Name one discipline technique ever that you can do once snd the kid never misbehaves again.
quote:yea, we're definitely in agreement as that was my exact argument for discipline. We just do it in different ways but the same general philosophy
Raising a child isn't about immediate results and they instantly become you hope of them. It's a growth slowly over time and you mold them to give them all the tools in the world to be successful and a positive force onto the world,
Probably the only thing you and I seemingly don't agree on is that I do not think spanking is necessary for all boys.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:01 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:In fairness, whether you know they're doing it or not, I bet you also know parents who hit their kids and their kids are assholes too
I know some people who are all 100% positive reinforcement, and their little boys are spoiled assholes. The parents are just too starstruck with their little man to see it.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:03 pm to shel311
A smack on the butt and beating a kid out of anger are two very different things.
I've seen both in public. Most people believe they are doing the former but really are doing the latter.
I've seen both in public. Most people believe they are doing the former but really are doing the latter.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:03 pm to yellowfin
quote:just wait until you see him work through a travel baw thread
You are really passionate about this
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