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re: Parents of the OT - how do you feel about ADD meds for pre-teens?

Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:59 pm to
I believe it is definitely over diagnosed. To a critical point even. But there are definitely people out there that need and GREATLY benefit from the meds.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27870 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:59 pm to
Simple test. If your child takes speed and it calms him? He needed the med. if he just gets amped and focused? It may not be ADD. He just performs better on amphetamines. Everybody does.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
ADHD is a real thing and for kids that truly need meds it helps a lot. Problem is 75% of kids on the meds probably are not truly ADHD. You need to judge your kid for yourself without outside influence pro or con and you'll know if he would benefit or not.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14870 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
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What say the OT about putting pre-teens on ADD type meds?


I understand that this is new territory for you but there are much better resources to reach out to for opinions. Call your Dr for child psychiatrist referrals and spend 10 minutes on google looking for support groups to see stories from those with real experience.

Here, you will be flooded with responses from individuals that have very little experience with this condition and/or children at all. Taking advice on something like this from people like that is like taking financial advice from a homeless person.





This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 2:01 pm
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11967 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
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If you can't get through a masturbation session without losing focus you definitely need meds.


Boom there it is
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8329 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Nope. Despises recreational reading.


Found a goodsized problem. Try to get them interested in some fiction from an author who is a good storyteller, and is easy to read. Their comprehension will soar. Loving reading is key to comprehension.

My "credentials" for what they're worth are; I was reading by 3, was post college reading level by 4th grade, and had a perfect score on the ACT in reading comprehension.

Plus, I have ADHD.

I dont think your kid necessarily needs meds, I think they are just going through the motions when reading.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:01 pm to
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What will these do for me?


Probably true. However, you should know that most Autism Spectrum kids are also ADHD.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117061 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:03 pm to
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But there are definitely people out there that need and GREATLY benefit from the meds.


I acknowledged that.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:03 pm to
What you described doesn't sound like ADD. I'd suggest taking to an educational type psychologist for LD testing. It could be more like dyslexia, dyspraxia, etc. and needs therapy instead

Otoh, my son and I are super ADD, just can't focus. We've both been on meds forever with no known side effects. And many of the meds have been around forever. So if your ex does put her on it, no need to freak out
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2331 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:07 pm to
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11 year old struggles to structure sentences, that means he needs amphetamines.

Incredible.



I'm actually mostly against these meds (and especially for my child), but the EX is pushing it. Our child is an average student and makes pretty decent grades - except in Reading class.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2331 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

ADHD is a real thing and for kids that truly need meds it helps a lot. Problem is 75% of kids on the meds probably are not truly ADHD. You need to judge your kid for yourself without outside influence pro or con and you'll know if he would benefit or not.


I agree with this.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47432 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:09 pm to
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I'm actually mostly against these meds (and especially for my child), but the EX is pushing it. Our child is an average student and makes pretty decent grades - except in Reading class.


I'm speaking towards your ex.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14870 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:10 pm to
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I'm actually mostly against these meds (and especially for my child), but the EX is pushing it. Our child is an average student and makes pretty decent grades - except in Reading class.


And there you go. There's actually better advice in this thread than most like this and look which response got to you? I was where you were at one time. Let go of your preconceived judgments. They're based on nothing real. Get educated and trust good Dr's.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34324 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
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I'm actually mostly against these meds (and especially for my child).


You should be. They are terrible for you.

quote:

but the EX is pushing it.

Woman wanting more pills, again shocker
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
I had the best 3 semesters of my educational career on add medication.

I tried Adderall, Concerta, etc...

Sophomore and first semester junior year of high school.

Best grades of my life.

I was also completely and totally a different person. I was never hungry and basically a zombie. I had no social desires and no practical thinking skills. I couldn't do anything creative. And I was just going through the motions everyday. I hated every single day of it.

I hate those fricking drugs with a passion. There are a very very small minority of people who actually need them. It's one of the most overdiagnosed problematic issues in this country for kids.

If I had stayed on them I have no doubt I'd have had better grades with the ability to regurgitate textbooks, but I would have develop no logical and critical thinking skills. Just rote memorization and instruction following. That's doesn't help you in the real world.

I instead learned how to deal with my attention problems and channel them into productivity.

Most kids aged 13-20 don't have fully developed brains and are still figuring out life and how to deal with things.

Jamming medications into their system to stunt that learning curve and force concentration is not a good thing imho, fwiw.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted by TheOper8er
United States
Member since Dec 2016
46 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:17 pm to
Necessary for some, but for many parents it's just a lazy arse way of parenting your kids.

ADHD is probably the most over diagnosed "disorder" in the world.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:18 pm to
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It could be more like dyslexia, dyspraxia, etc. and needs therapy instead

this is what I saw.

I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until I was in my 40s. I was just the weird kid. I didn't take meds and made straight A in HS/College/Grad School. Although I really struggled in middle school.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
I can agree to the feeling of being a zombie. I for one did not have the eating issues with Adderall that many had. I guess food is just too good down here? lol

I hated feeling boxed in and not myself. That is the one downside of meds like adderall. I still get a scrip just to have it in case. The only time ive used it in the past couple months is when I had to do some over night stuff for my work and knew I would not have been able to make it. I am a morning person not a night owl.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1575 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
I would definitely try alternatives first, like tutoring. First grade teacher tried to push me to put my daughter on them for behavioral issues. We went to Counseling instead and it worked wonders. I have two friends who put their young sons on them. One died at age 20 of a drug overdose and the other one who is now in his 30's has been in drug rehab several times. I would prefer to teach kids that sometimes there are alternatives to dealing with issues in life, other than with a drug or drugs. Just my opinion.
Posted by TideSaint
God's country
Member since Sep 2008
85129 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:24 pm to
Adderall and Ritalin aren't the only ADHD medications out there.

If you get a second opinion from the doctor and he/she suggests trying a medication tell them you want to try Intuniv first.

It's not a stimulant and was initially formulated as a high blood pressure medication.

It won't stunt growth, cause loss of appetite or turn your kid into a zombie.
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