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re: Parents of girl who died of measles in TX say it was God's will, and to avoid vaccination
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:28 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:28 pm to lsupride87
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You seem to be the one latching on to “hope” in terms of wanting it to be medical malpractice, not the other way around…
Not latching on to anything other than people quickly jumping to shame people bc of their religion.
But yes I do think it’s odd that this little girl died given she was pony all accounts healthy. I also think it’s possible she didn’t get the proper medical attention bc someone thought the decisions her parents made were “stupid”.
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:37 pm to STEVED00
quote:Also standard for when you go to your DOCTORS office when your child has a fever and rash
Didn’t someone say earlier they sent her home with just fever reducing meds?
That was the first stop. She did not go to a hospital until she had labored breathing
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:38 pm to STEVED00
quote:Thats unbelievably irrational. I know Covid has warped some of y’all’s brains, but a doctor is never going to shite on a little girls treatment because of a parents decision, regardless what chain emails and Dave post posts tell you
also think it’s possible she didn’t get the proper medical attention bc someone thought the decisions her parents made were “stupid”.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:38 pm to lsupride87
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Also standard for when you go to your DOCTORS office when your child has a fever and rash
So they didn’t know it was measles?
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:39 pm to STEVED00
quote:What would be the magic pill when you have measles and only a fever?
So they didn’t know it was measles?
Treatment in US is fever reducing meds, rest, and fluids for the measles. You can go look that up since you seem to believe there is a magic shot they didn’t use
The magic is the vaccine. After that, if you get a virus, there isn’t magic. There is symptom treatment
In rare cases it progresses badly and then they move to treat those progressions
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:42 pm to lsupride87
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Thats unbelievably irrational. I know Covid has warped some of y’all’s brains, but a doctor is never going to shite on a little girls treatment because of a parents decision, regardless what chain emails and Dave post posts tell you
Fair enough. Though from the thread which could be BS she went to doctor and got sent home with fever meds. Few days later, she showed back up with a bad case of pneumonia.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:43 pm to STEVED00
quote:BECAUSE THAT IS THE STANDARD PROTOCOL FOR MEASLES TREATMENT
Though from the thread which could be BS she went to doctor and got sent home with fever meds
Seriously, you are too smart to not grasp this
Go show up to a doctors office where your child has fever and they diagnose it as measles. What do you think they will and should do?
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:54 pm to Riverside
Why some want to harass people of faith, I’ll never understand.
Faith and stupid do not intersect. They stupid
Faith and stupid do not intersect. They stupid
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
Look people are trying to make the case that this kid is some how indicative of a measles being something everyone should be extremely concerned about in this day and age. And just by reading that guide, that really looks no different than a host of respiratory diseases yet measles gets the gloom and doom treatment and given the #s of actual cases it doesn’t jump out as being all that concerning.
I just hate how people jump to shame or throw in jail based off this.
I just hate how people jump to shame or throw in jail based off this.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 1:04 pm to lsupride87
So the virus is so deadly they treat it with water and Tylenol? I see.
Healthy people die from the flu every year, it is rare but an unfortunate outcome sometimes.
Much more rare, a healthy person sometimes also dies from
Measles. If someone tragically healthy dies from the flu, do you shame them for not getting a flu shot?
Healthy people die from the flu every year, it is rare but an unfortunate outcome sometimes.
Much more rare, a healthy person sometimes also dies from
Measles. If someone tragically healthy dies from the flu, do you shame them for not getting a flu shot?
Posted on 3/25/25 at 1:06 pm to Bob Sacamano 89
quote:Due to the nature of the flus mutation the shot is far less effective
If someone tragically healthy dies from the flu, do you shame them for not getting a flu shot?
Not getting the measles vaccine with the efficacy rate as high as it is is dumb. Being dumb does not mean you deserve pain and suffering. But you are still dumb
I feel awful for the parents regardless of their decision. Where my anger lies is then still coming out and saying “the measles isn’t that bad”
That’s asinine from them
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:19 pm to L1C4
Shes dead. Thats how. Not hard really. If God wanted her to be alive she would be vaccination or not.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:26 pm to lsupride87
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What would be the magic pill when you have measles and only a fever?
Well the oldest protocol (and current) in the books for measles is Vitamin A. why didnt the doctor recommend it? was he not aware? and why did a doctor treat the other kids differently with breathing treatments?
Vitamin A, its really that simple and proven. for some reason after 1960 doctors have forgotten how to treat measles. wonder what could have happened then.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:31 pm to Pezzo
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Vitamin A, its really that simple and proven.
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Patients may ask about vitamin A after hearing claims that it can help prevent or treat measles. Here’s what we can share:
Vitamin A is NOT a replacement for vaccination. The measles, mumps and rubella vaccine is the only reliable way to prevent measles.
Vitamin A supplementation has been shown to reduce measles mortality in malnourished populations in resource-limited countries, where deficiencies are common. In well-nourished populations, the benefits are unclear.
High-dose vitamin A therapy carries safety risks, including toxicity, liver damage and increased intracranial pressure.
It’s not a common treatment in any non malnourished country. It isn’t a magic bullet for measles. It’s simply given in places where Vitamin A is already lacking, and in non malnourished country it’s given once severe illness amhas set in along with many other things at that time
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:36 pm to lsupride87
uhhh... yes it is. where did you get your quote from? trust me bro?
American Academy of Pediatrics
quote:
Vitamin A
The WHO currently recommends vitamin A for all children with measles, regardless of their country of residence. Many US experts concur with administering vitamin A to all children in the United States with measles, regardless of hospitalization status. Vitamin A treatment of children with measles in resource-limited countries has been associated with decreased morbidity and mortality rates. Low serum concentrations of vitamin A also have been found in children in the United States, and children with more severe measles illness may have lower vitamin A concentrations. Vitamin A for treatment of measles is administered once daily for 2 days (ie, immediately on diagnosis and repeated the next day), at the following doses:
American Academy of Pediatrics
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:38 pm to STEVED00
They did not know she had measles.
Measles is so rare and most doctors < 70 y.o. probably never seen a live case of the illness... thanks to the vaccine.
If the doctor suspected measles, the little girl would be immediately hospitalized and placed in isolation. The R0 for measles at 12-18 which makes measles ridiculously contagious especially in a community of Mennonites with low vaccination rates.
Measles is so rare and most doctors < 70 y.o. probably never seen a live case of the illness... thanks to the vaccine.
If the doctor suspected measles, the little girl would be immediately hospitalized and placed in isolation. The R0 for measles at 12-18 which makes measles ridiculously contagious especially in a community of Mennonites with low vaccination rates.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:43 pm to lsupride87
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it’s given once severe illness amhas set in along with many other things at that time
if thats the case, which it seems to be, then they are doing it wrong.
WHO guidelines are quoted above. pretty clear on whats to be done.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:45 pm to Pezzo
You bow want to go with the WHO?
Anyway, let’s see what the vitamin A helps with in those that are malnourished
Also,
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Anyway, let’s see what the vitamin A helps with in those that are malnourished
quote:
The supplement is meant to reduce eye damage and blindness from the disease — not prevent it altogether, per WHO.
Also,
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Yes, vitamin A is important in places like Africa, but this isn’t Africa,” Adalja said. “We don’t have vitamin A deficiency.”
It’s important to note that excessive vitamin A intake can “pose various adverse effects, disrupting the body’s equilibrium and overall well-being,” the National Institutes of Health explains.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:50 pm to lsupride87
whoa Vitamin A plays an important role in eye health! shocker! i guess Vitamin A can only have one role.
again straight from WHO:
WHO guidelines
wait ! whaaaaa! Vitamin A is shown to reduce pneumonia! no way thats the eye vitamin
again straight from WHO:
quote:
Two doses of vitamin A are recommended for all suspected measles cases in children under 5 years of age,
immediately on diagnosis and repeated the next day, according to the dosing indicated in Table 5.2 (9). This
treatment has been shown to reduce overall mortality in children (10,11) and pneumonia-specific mortality
in children with measles under 2 years of age (10).
WHO guidelines
wait ! whaaaaa! Vitamin A is shown to reduce pneumonia! no way thats the eye vitamin
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:54 pm to Pezzo
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Two doses of vitamin A are recommended for all suspected measles cases in children under 5 years of age,
Thanks. So even according to your link, they properly followed even WHO protocol for the 6 YEAR OLD CHILD
Also, please link me WHO guidelines for childhood covid vaccination since that’s our guide light
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 2:55 pm
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