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P-51 downs 109 after Chasing Through Eiffel Tower in WWII

Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:24 pm
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:24 pm


I had not heard this story before:


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The P-51B Mustang “Berlin Express” achieved legendary status in an epic World War II dogfight in Paris in 1944, piloted by Bill Overstreet, who flew the aircraft under the Eiffel Tower in hot pursuit of a of a Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 109. Overstreet eventually downed the German plane and eluded heavy enemy fire while escaping the battle with aircraft intact.

‘Bill was assigned to bomber escort missions with the 357th fighter group, and so he dubbed his plane the “Berlin Express,”’ Brian Burnett II, Tour Guide at National Museum of the US Air Force, explains on Quora.

‘One time, a squadron of Messerschmitt 109’s outside Paris made a pass at the bomber group, and the P-51’s were hell bent on shooting all of them down. Overstreet was caught in a dogfight with one until the pilot had had enough, but Overstreet was just getting warmed up. He threw that throttle forward and went after him, following him into enemy territory. In an effort to get him off his tail, the 109 made low passes over Paris to get help from Anti-Aircraft guns stationed in the city.

‘That didn’t help because our man Bill was like Daredevil, the man without fear. Between flying so low and dodging enemy fire, he still shot a few bursts of his guns and hit the 109’s engine. In a last-ditch effort, the 109 flew under the Eiffel Tower hoping Overstreet would avoid it — NOPE! Bill followed him under the tower, and, as the 109 pulled up, Bill sent him back down in flames. Afterwards, Bill went down to the river and followed it, barely above water level. Under the cover of the structures on either side, he made his way out of the city and back to base.’


Aviation Geek Club
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:28 pm to
The Ghost of Paris.
Posted by Philzilla
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68897 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:32 pm to
Revell makes this exact kit…



… I may have to look into this more.
Posted by HarveyBanger
Member since Mar 2018
1216 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:32 pm to
Cool story but likely made up.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52082 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:37 pm to
But, what was their pronoun?

That's what's important now.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
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2664 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:39 pm to
When flying for the CAF and Kavanagh Air Museum my uncle flew both.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:58 pm to
Interview with Bill Overstreet LINK
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12498 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:10 pm to
Badasses abounded in that generation. Don’t think for a second there aren’t good men willing to fight in this country still.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20027 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Don’t think for a second there aren’t good men willing to fight in this country still.

To go fight Russia so Biden can line his pockets? Nah buddy
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148041 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:22 pm to
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To go fight Russia so Biden can line his pockets? Nah buddy

patriots are fighting for putin to take out our illegitimate, criminal, government
Posted by Nuts
Michigan
Member since Oct 2011
1086 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:28 pm to
So did the 109 crash into a populated area of Paris then?

Seems like civilian casualties are an inevitability of dog fighting over a crowded urban area.
Posted by Iron Lion
Sipsey
Member since Nov 2014
12830 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:28 pm to
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Darth_Vader
You should build that model and post pics
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68897 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:47 pm to
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You should build that model and post pics


I’ve built a version of the P-51B several years ago…

just not this one.


I’d also be interested in finding the BF-109 he’s going after. I’ve built a couple of them over the years.




But I’d like to build more. I’d have to find out the JG this particular BF-109 came from and see if anyone makes decals for this one.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:53 pm to
Ever done any modern jets?

What about an F-14? That’s my favorite
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68897 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:01 pm to
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Ever done any modern jets?


I usually stick to WWII era but I’ve done a few.

F-106…


F-18…


F-4…

Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Cool story but likely made up.

It’s on TD how can it be made up?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12498 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:14 am to
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patriots are fighting for putin to take out our illegitimate, criminal, government


Nah, most patriots are more worried about what's going on in our coasts instead of what's going on in Eastern Europe.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19072 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:17 am to
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… I may have to look into this more.


You don't want that kit. It's pure shite. Go with Tamiya's 1/48 P-51B and source decals.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:17 am to
The older I get the more I question the accuracy of "history."

If you write some bullshite down today and say it is true and somebody finds it in 100 years then it is a historical record.
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