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re: Outrage alert: White woman hunts a giraffe in Africa, so you know what happens next
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:01 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:01 am to LNCHBOX
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You
Maybe you should look up what emotional means then.
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Again, proof?
Paying $50k for a trophy?
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And yet you still bring up the motives as if they change the outcome.
No I didn’t. I specifically said it’s okay to look at it from 2 sides.
The people melting over the giraffe being killed should know it’s okay to see the entire village being fed with a ton of meat and breeder bulls being safe from the a-hole older bull.
Just like it’s okay for you to see that people going on these trophy hunts are doing it for themselves, not for conservation.
Having either side admit these doesn’t change anything about the facts and it doesn’t make me emotional to point these out.
I really feel like this is a rational argument so I don’t get why you’re being like this.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 10:03 am
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:02 am to TH03
quote:I feel the same way about people who buy sports cars or put modified exhausts on a truck.
These hunts attract people needing ego boosts. Those are douchey reasons.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:03 am to Cowboyfan89
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You started off with "you don't kill animals for sport", and now you say you were jealous?
Do you want an "atta boy"?
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Unless you need to hunt to survive (i.e., subsistence hunting), you are a sport hunter. I would venture to say that 99% of hunters in North America are sport hunters.
"hunt to survive" can be interpreted differently from person to person. I could interpret that as I hunt to provide meat/food for my family. Can I go buy meat at the store for the same purpose? Sure. But I choose to provide by hunting. If you want to call that sport hunting, go for it.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:03 am to LNCHBOX
Except ol broad gets her rocks off doing it
Look, do I care about the animal? Honestly I don’t
I just think these big game hunters have a weird character flaw. No biggie
My uncle does this. He had a room of all kinds of shite. He thinks he is cooler than teddy Roosevelt for it too. I have seen a video of one of his “hunts”
Ride on a Jeep, find a herd, African guide sets up tripod, he gets out and sets up scoped rifle, and shoots animal
It’s just a weird thing to be “proud of” and find enjoyable to me.
But I’m sure I do shite that others find weird so whatever
Look, do I care about the animal? Honestly I don’t
I just think these big game hunters have a weird character flaw. No biggie
My uncle does this. He had a room of all kinds of shite. He thinks he is cooler than teddy Roosevelt for it too. I have seen a video of one of his “hunts”
Ride on a Jeep, find a herd, African guide sets up tripod, he gets out and sets up scoped rifle, and shoots animal
It’s just a weird thing to be “proud of” and find enjoyable to me.
But I’m sure I do shite that others find weird so whatever
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:03 am to TH03
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Maybe you should look up what emotional means then.
If questioning how you came to your generalization is emotional, maybe.
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Paying $50k for a trophy?
So spending your money can only be done to stroke your ego?
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No I didn’t
You absolutely did.
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Just like it’s okay for you to see that people going on these trophy hunts are doing it for themselves, not for conservation.
No one has said differently. That doesn't make them douches though.
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Having either side admit these doesn’t change anything about the facts and it doesn’t make me emotional to point these out.
That's not why I called your argument emotional.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:04 am to LNCHBOX
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The pace of the giraffe is an amble, though when pursued it can run extremely fast, up to 55 km/h.
How many giraffe have you pursued? All the ones I've seen just casually walk like a cow.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:04 am to Salmon
I'd guess most of these people choose this way of spending their money because of a desire to both hunt and kill an exotic animal and for conservationist reasons. It'd be an odd choice of leisure/sport with zero interest in that aspect.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:04 am to redstick13
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How many giraffe have you pursued? All the ones I've seen just casually walk like a cow.
How any have you seen outside of a zoo?
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am to LNCHBOX
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That's not why I called your argument emotional.
Then you really need to read a dictionary because I haven’t had an emotional post in this thread.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am to lsupride87
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lsupride87
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LNCHBOX
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TH03
This thread is officially a shite show
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am to GetCocky11
I have absolutely nothing against hunting if it is for putting meat on the table------anybody's table. But to hunt just for the rack on moose or other antlered animals, or just for the hide of bears and such-----hell no.
And I truly don't understand killing an animal like a giraffe. They are herbivores and if any of them have harmed humans, I feel like they probably deserved it in some way by messing with the animal in the first place.
And I truly don't understand killing an animal like a giraffe. They are herbivores and if any of them have harmed humans, I feel like they probably deserved it in some way by messing with the animal in the first place.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Maybe it doesn’t make them a douche, but I haven’t found one of these big game hunters that isn’t a douche
That doesn't make them douches though.
And I have met plenty....
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am to thegreatboudini
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These hunts are typically used to get rid of a single animal that is a nuisance. Like this particular giraffe was attacking other giraffes, or disturbing local villages. I wouldn’t care to ever hunt a giraffe, but if the local village was going to kill it anyway, why not make someone pay them 50k to do it?
I agree, but, it is difficult for any government to regulate and police a situation like this one to ensure the propriety of the hunt and the justification for the hunt. It's too easy for government corruption to mess up the process.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:05 am to LNCHBOX
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So spending your money can only be done to stroke your ego?
for something to hang on your wall? yes
weird how you left off the "for a trophy" part there...
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:06 am to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:06 am to TH03
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Then you really need to read a dictionary because I haven’t had an emotional post in this thread.
Don't think I haven't noticed that you refuse to actually answer why these people are douchey.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:06 am to GetCocky11
I.Don't.fricking.Care.
This happened on the other side of the world, this particular animal was killing other giraffes.
This happened on the other side of the world, this particular animal was killing other giraffes.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 10:07 am
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:06 am to lsupride87
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Maybe it doesn’t make them a douche, but I haven’t found one of these big game hunters that isn’t a douche
And I have met plenty....
What about big game fisherman?
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:06 am to LNCHBOX
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Don't think I haven't noticed that you refuse to actually answer why these people are douchey.
So you ignored when I said paying $50k for a trophy as an ego boost is douchey?
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:07 am to Salmon
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for something to hang on your wall? yes
weird how you left off the "for a trophy" part there...
I don't believe in redundancy. I stand by my statement. I guess everyone everywhere that spends their money on anything for fun is stroking their ego.
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