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re: OU Racism Update: 2 students expelled over Racist Video
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:32 pm to Sao
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:32 pm to Sao
OU freshman Joe Mixon was suspended last season for knocking out a white female. There was a video. Glad to see the university react so swiftly in his case. He is now able to begin participating in team activities.
Dorial Green-Beckham had allegations for violence against women. OU had no problem letting him enroll.
Dorial Green-Beckham had allegations for violence against women. OU had no problem letting him enroll.
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:33 pm to Wooly
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No, A public university may not expell students for speech
Unless it's determined to be legitimately threatening (which in this case I don't think it's a true threat or would be found to be by a court..that's from that link.
My point is that you cannot say literally anything you want with impunity on a college campus, which some people here are arguing, although the majority of speech is protected.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:33 pm to tgrbaitn08
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white people weren't treated like animals for 300 years.
He's obviously never heard of Jews or the Irish
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:33 pm to CptBengal
Well I'm reading the Washington Post article now. Rethinking my stance on this...
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:34 pm to REG861
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My point is that you cannot say literally anything you want with impunity on a college campus, which some people here are arguing,
keep kicking that strawman! You'll get him!
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:34 pm to The Hurricane
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OU freshman Joe Mixon was suspended last season for knocking out a white female. There was a video. Glad to see the university react so swiftly in his case. He is now able to begin participating in team activities.
Dorial Green-Beckham had allegations for violence against women. OU had no problem letting him enroll.
but what about that code of conduct rule?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:35 pm to Sao
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You're argument it's a public university is naive at best. It's like saying the chancellor's admin assistant has the autonomy o walk in each day and says "frick you, you old wrinkle balled son of a bitch" and she's untouchable simply because she's employed by said public institution.
She is an employee saying that directly to a person. If she was a student saying that to while referring directly to another student or staff member, yes they could be suspended but if a student just said,"frick all old wrinkle balled sons of bitches" they could not. One would be harassment and the other is free speech.
Same as saying "hang a nagger from a tree" is protected speech but if you went up to a black person and said, "nagger, I am going to hang you from a tree" it would not be. There is a difference between a free speech and a threat.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:35 pm to Sao
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You're argument it's a public university is naive at best. It's like saying the chancellor's admin assistant has the autonomy o walk in each day and says "frick you, you old wrinkle balled son of a bitch" and she's untouchable simply because she's employed by said public institution.
No, it really doesn't.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:36 pm to REG861
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which some people here are arguing
I have literally not read any person in this thread arguing that.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:36 pm to lsu480
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She is an employee saying that directly to a person. If she was a student saying that to while referring directly to another student or staff member, yes they could be suspended but if a student just said,"frick all old wrinkle balled sons of bitches" they could not. One would be harassment and the other is free speech.
why are these concepts so difficult for people?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:36 pm to tgrbaitn08
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but what about that code of conduct rule?
Knocking out white bitches is free speech, brah.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:36 pm to CptBengal
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keep kicking that strawman! You'll get him!
I don't think you know what a 'strawman' means in the context of an argument.
Do you think a student has the Constitutional right to say, defame or slander someone, without being subject to university discipline?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:36 pm to The Hurricane
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OU freshman Joe Mixon was suspended last season for knocking out a white female. There was a video. Glad to see the university react so swiftly in his case. He is now able to begin participating in team activities.
Once again proving that simply saying the n-word is worse than knocking out a female!
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:36 pm to terd ferguson
The students are being booted for "your leadership role in leading a racist and exclusionary chant which has created a hostile educational environment for others.”
Does that language suggest that their remove is based on conduct and not the actual speech? I'm not a constitutional lawyer so, among those here who are, where is the distinction?
Does that language suggest that their remove is based on conduct and not the actual speech? I'm not a constitutional lawyer so, among those here who are, where is the distinction?
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:37 pm to lsu480
OU has all the discretion in what they now deem hostile, as would wrinkle balls when he fires fake admin's smart arse.
Just the way it is.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:37 pm to terd ferguson
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He's obviously never heard of Jews or the Irish
Yes, I am aware how the white man is an EOO (Equal Opportunity Oppressor).
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:38 pm to lsu480
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Once again proving that simply saying the n-word is worse than knocking out a female!
I'm afraid that's the world we live in.....it's sad
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:38 pm to TheBoo
Amazing the lengths humans will go to, all because of the color of skin. Anything to separate, to alienate, to hate, and to individualize.
To think that skin color makes a human being superior, or inferior is absolutely insane. Yet highly educated people believe it to be true.
It is the way of the world, an ego controlled population of people. So much effort is put into being separate, apart from, unique, independent, better than, richer than, better looking, Stronger, faster, smarter, and more powerful.
The above explains exactly why we think we are here in this insane world.
It's ironic that in reality, there is no separateness, no individuals, and no differences. We have never been more than One, and never left our Creator.
We sleep, and we dream, mostly nightmares. There is no hope for this world, because it is only a projection of insane thought, produced by a tiny mad idea in the mind called the ego.
Everything is a mess, but all is well, the outcome is certain. Carry on my brothers and sisters.
To think that skin color makes a human being superior, or inferior is absolutely insane. Yet highly educated people believe it to be true.
It is the way of the world, an ego controlled population of people. So much effort is put into being separate, apart from, unique, independent, better than, richer than, better looking, Stronger, faster, smarter, and more powerful.
The above explains exactly why we think we are here in this insane world.
It's ironic that in reality, there is no separateness, no individuals, and no differences. We have never been more than One, and never left our Creator.
We sleep, and we dream, mostly nightmares. There is no hope for this world, because it is only a projection of insane thought, produced by a tiny mad idea in the mind called the ego.
Everything is a mess, but all is well, the outcome is certain. Carry on my brothers and sisters.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:38 pm to Robin Masters
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Does that language suggest that their remove is based on conduct and not the actual speech?
Read The Washington Post article...
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:38 pm to REG861
oh i agree
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