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re: OT PHOTOGRAPHERS: Sony, Canon, or Nikon? Help me pick a new camera

Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:55 pm to
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Big issue with full frame is cost and range of available lenses

While cost might be an issue, what lenses are you talking about that are available for APS-C that aren't available for full frame? I find it's usually the opposite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:56 pm to
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My everyday camera is a Fuji XT-20 mirrorless


The Fuji Xt-x0 series is the best budget camera out there. I prefer the main like of cameras myself but the only real disadvantage of the budget models is weather resistance which isn't an issue for most people.

The Fuji "kit lenses" are far superior to Nikon, Canon and Sony Kit lenses.

Olympus and Panasonic aren't bad if you don't mind the smaller sensors but I wouldn't depend on them for low light stuff.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19311 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:06 pm to
I've used both professionally, bud. I don't give a frick what you think of my post.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87347 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:07 pm to
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I've used both professionally, bud. I don't give a frick what you think of my post.



No you haven't

Or you're the worst pro photographer on earth

"Nikon has a ton of built in features" - I mean FFS
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299429 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:09 pm to
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While cost might be an issue, what lenses are you talking about that are available for APS-C that aren't available for full frame? I find it's usually the opposite


There are a lot more options, specifically third party for crop sensors in almost any brand.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 4:26 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33485 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:24 pm to
AntiqueTiger is the one person to listen to in this thread. He’s posted some pretty amazing pictures he has taken over the years.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299429 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:27 pm to
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Nikon has a ton of built in features" - I mean FFS


Some of the Sony cameras are electronic devices that double as cameras. Mostly menu based.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22652 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:39 pm to
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theantiquetiger


Listen to this man. He knows what he's talking about. Why he got downvotes is beyond me.

Nikon or Canon would be the way to go if you want to get really serious.

Canon gear is about 10%-25% less expensive when it comes to lenses (at least it was when I was buying gear like a drunken sailor). Third party lenses (Tamron, Sigma, Tokina) are also very good and much cheaper, but there is a difference in quality. If you are making a living with your photography, that extra 5%-10% in quality is worth the extra $1000 or more dollars for a OEM lens.

However, each system has its own pros and cons. From what I remember, Nikon lenses are a touch more crisp and clear, but Canon cameras have better autofocus and are a touch faster. I think Nikons are a bit better in low light, but not that 99% of the people will notice. You can use Nikon lenses that go back to the 1950s. I actually have a 45 year old lens for my setup. It's amazing.

One caveat is that I haven't bought a new camera in 7 years, or a new lens in 5.



But I hear those Sony A7's are the bomb too.

Good luck.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:41 pm to
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"Nikon has a ton of built in features" - I mean FFS


I shoot in manual. I don't need features.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19311 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:44 pm to
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I shoot in manual. I don't need features.
Which is why I like Canon.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299429 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:47 pm to
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I shoot in manual. I don't need features.


Fuji XT-X line I'd great for manual. Old school dials, and you rarely have to get into the menu. It's one big advantage over comparable Sony models.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:53 pm to
I’m actually getting into nature photography and thinking of buying a used D7500 (I already have nikonnlenses and a d3300). Somebody tell me why that’s a good or bad idea
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:54 pm to
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I have a Nikon D500. And when/should I wear it out, I'll look at MILC at that time and see what is good then. Of course I'm assuming I'll have the needed cash.


One of my problems is, I’m only a serious amateur photographer, and I already have about $5,000 invested in Nikon lenses. I know I could use an adapter, but I’d probably want Sony lenses and I just can’t justify the expense.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87347 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:56 pm to
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Which is why I like Canon.



Which has all of Nikon's "built in features"


This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Lago Gato
Member since Dec 2018
2040 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:03 pm to
I have a Nikon D-90 that I’ve used for well over 10 years , I can’t imagine needing anything more advanced. Solid camera.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:03 pm to
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shoot in manual. I don't need features.


I shoot almost exclusively in manual too, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want a camera that delivers great low light capabilities, handles digital noise well or has great dynamic range.
One of the main reasons I want to switch to mirrorless is because of the smaller size and weight and it’s easier portability when hiking.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87347 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:07 pm to
Exactly

Plenty of pro and advanced amateur shooters use the hell out of subject tracking and bracketing and IBIS and whatever else we're categorizing as "features"
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:09 pm to
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Plenty of pro and advanced amateur shooters use the hell out of subject tracking and bracketing and IBIS and whatever else we're categorizing as "features


And I hear the subject tracking is superb on some of the newer Sony mirrorless cameras. But I shoot mostly landscapes and wouldn’t really need this feature, but in camera focus stacking and focus peaking would be awesome
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
2257 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:14 pm to
Pentax if your going DSLR.
Great optics and shake reduction built into the body.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6805 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:17 pm to
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I’m actually getting into nature photography and thinking of buying a used D7500 (I already have nikonnlenses and a d3300). Somebody tell me why that’s a good or bad idea

Good idea much better in low light for better image quality when cropped. APS-C format also has more "reach" than FF for long distance shots like birds due to the crop factor.That is unless you're an OT baller and can afford $5k and up FF zoom lenses and cameras.

I buy used gear from Adorama some from B&H both are good have never had an issue, both always low shutter counts <200 on the E rated stuff. Coming from a D3300 you may be happy with a less expensive D5500, unless D7500 weather sealing is important to you. The D5500 is surprisingly good in low light have bought several for my kids.
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