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re: OT Medical Students
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:11 pm to jose
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:11 pm to jose
The match doesn't work like that, at least if med match works like pharmacy residency matches with NMS.
The algorithm tries to place the candidate in his #1 spot, and if that program has a spot available, they are "matched" until someone who the program prefers comes along and wants the same position. There is no point in trying to "game the system".
I matched at my #1 too
The algorithm tries to place the candidate in his #1 spot, and if that program has a spot available, they are "matched" until someone who the program prefers comes along and wants the same position. There is no point in trying to "game the system".
I matched at my #1 too
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 9:12 pm
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:12 pm to jose
You can and that happens frequently, but that's not a binding contract. The program or applicant can change their mind or rank them lower with that agreement- it's not an actual offer. Just a gentleman's agreement.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:12 pm to jose
No. Pretty sure it is against the rules for a program to make a statement like that. Applicants can tell programs that they plan on ranking them high though.
Could be wrong about that.
Also, it is important to remember when you go through match that...
EVERYBODY LIES!
Could be wrong about that.
Also, it is important to remember when you go through match that...
EVERYBODY LIES!
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:13 pm to RadTiger
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That is just as illegal according to NRMP.
Ah did not know that.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:14 pm to Scruffy
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Yea, it's a violation of match terms. Not sure what happens if you get caught though.
I think the applicant is pretty safe in that case. The program, though, can be sanctioned by and up to not being included in the match for future years. I think the idea is to come down hard on the program to prevent the occurrence in the future.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:14 pm to Scruffy
quote:
EVERYBODY LIES!
So true. Every place I interviewed got a thank you letter from me telling them how awesome I think they are and look forward to seeing them again soon
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:17 pm to Tiguar
quote:Same.
So true. Every place I interviewed got a thank you letter from me telling them how awesome I think they are and look forward to seeing them again soon
Applicants lie to programs.
Programs lie to applicants.
Trust no one.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:24 pm to RadTiger
It's been a few years but I thought it was OK to disclose to a program (or to an applicant) that you were ranking them high but you could not ask the applicant (or the program). Like someone else already said, during the match everyone lies.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 11:48 pm to TypoKnig
We've had people send our program letters the past few years letting us know they were ranking us #1. Our program has become a lot more competitive since the Earl closed and most rotations moved to the Lake
Posted on 3/21/15 at 11:53 pm to Hopeful Doc
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ETA: you're pulling a typical Poli Talk where you get offended over things you half read or didn't understand. I never spoke as an expert. Nor did I say half of what you're finding offensive.
I just know a lot more about this than you. I did my residency at Charity and taught at LSUNO and LSUBR. I've dealt with this for many years. I prefer all my MDs to be BC/BE in their speciality.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:13 am to Lithium
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I just know a lot more about this than you.
About working in an ER? Sure. No argument.
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I prefer all my MDs to be BC/BE in their speciality.
And that's a fine preference. But it doesn't preclude non-ER physicians from working in ERs, which was my point to the guy who is considering ER but not necessarily thrilled about how competitive the field is. The demand is so high that they're still finding/paying/hiring non-BE/BC ER guys to work in ERs all over the place. And many non-ER boarded guys are comfortable with the low-acuity aspects of ER- I know more than a few who do this. You're letting your personal opinion and experience on docs not boarded in the field they work, even if the field they are boarded in does include the field of Emergency (and in no way am I trying to say that the training is comparable or that they're perfect trade-offs in any respect, since I wasn't clear enough in saying that the first time, nor does my point hinge on them being totally comparable), drive an opinion that's neither wrong nor particularly relevant. Like it or not, seeing IM/FM guys in an ER outside of bigger hospitals probably isn't going anywhere for a while if ever. I'm not saying it's a good thing. But to someone whose goal is to work in the ER, it's a disservice to not point out that route exists, or that many people comfortably perform those duties.
And, again- just as I ended my last post- if you want to be a full time ER doc and know it, try your damndest to get into an ER residency. Don't make it? Try FM or IM and spend your electives down in the ED. You're marketable and hireable to probably more ER groups than not.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:36 am to chRxis
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when do they teach arrogance and pretentiousness?
During your surgical rotation.
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