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re: OT Lawyers: "Stand Your Ground" question (situation inside)
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:54 am to Sir Drinksalot
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:54 am to Sir Drinksalot
quote:
Always aim for the chest, always to kill. Or else don't pull your gun out.
Na Mayne. Chris and Snoop from The Wire taught us you want to get close enough for a head shot because ninjas stay wearing vests ya heard? If you are far away you aim for the arse or dick and then once they are down you walk up and hit em with a head shot.
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:57 am to steeltiger17
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If the bystander had not been there, I had every intention of drawing my gun and shooting this man. Not to kill; I can actually aim so I was going for his legs.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:59 am to lsu480
Imma just keep aiming for the chest. I don't recall ever seeing a thug in a a bullet proof vest.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:00 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:02 am to Sir Drinksalot
mistakes
1. shotgun unloaded
2. shoot for the legs?? if you pull a gun, you do it to kill.
but im not pulling a gun on someone who is threatning me to fight bare fist. Only if im out numbered or they have a weopon. Rather thats a gun, kife, or a 2x4 or what have you
1. shotgun unloaded
2. shoot for the legs?? if you pull a gun, you do it to kill.
but im not pulling a gun on someone who is threatning me to fight bare fist. Only if im out numbered or they have a weopon. Rather thats a gun, kife, or a 2x4 or what have you
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:07 am to oleyeller
quote:if my fiancee is in the car like the OP, Im pulling my gun.
but im not pulling a gun on someone who is threatning me to fight bare fist.
Why take the chance. The man could have a knife and turn on your girl after
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:14 am to oleyeller
[quote]but im not pulling a gun on someone who is threatning me to fight bare fist. Only if im out numbered or they have a weopon. Rather thats a gun, kife, or a 2x4 or what have you
Do yourself a favor and go get some training on how to use your weapon, your current method will get you killed one day. There is no way in hell u can tell if he has a weapon or even if he has someone with him.Ole school fighting is long gone man get with the times or it may cost you dearly.
Do yourself a favor and go get some training on how to use your weapon, your current method will get you killed one day. There is no way in hell u can tell if he has a weapon or even if he has someone with him.Ole school fighting is long gone man get with the times or it may cost you dearly.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:19 am to jeff5891
The real question is what do you do in 10 years...
When after witnessing the death of his father the boy, who has since devoted his life to swordsmanship and martial arts, is stalking you and your family relentlessly, hell bent on the flavor of sweet revenge.
When after witnessing the death of his father the boy, who has since devoted his life to swordsmanship and martial arts, is stalking you and your family relentlessly, hell bent on the flavor of sweet revenge.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:24 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:25 am to FISH N TIGER
quote:
[quote]but im not pulling a gun on someone who is threatning me to fight bare fist. Only if im out numbered or they have a weopon. Rather thats a gun, kife, or a 2x4 or what have you
Do yourself a favor and go get some training on how to use your weapon, your current method will get you killed one day. There is no way in hell u can tell if he has a weapon or even if he has someone with him.Ole school fighting is long gone man get with the times or it may cost you dearly.
i didnt say i was fighting. But if im feeling a threat, and that threat is just mouthing off im backing away from the situation and removing myself. Im not going to immediately pull a gun. Because if you pull it you better be ready to use it. I dont want murder of a man that is upset because he thought his child was in danger on my conscience.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:43 am to steeltiger17
You ALWAYS shoot to immobilize, and 99% of the time that ends fatally.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:45 am to steeltiger17
I would say that you should be glad you did not use deadly force because I am not sure if the man did enough to constitute imminent fear of death of serious bodily harm.
From your post, he did not have a weapon. You also never say he threatened to use physical force against you and he never actually touched you.
The question for a jury is whether a reasonable person under the same circumstances would have feared imminent danger to his life or serious bodily harm.
Here, was it imminent...yes
was the fear reasonable...yes
was is reasonable to fear death or serious bodily harm when the guy didnt threaten you and didnt have a weapon...i dont know what a jury would do
Keep in mind that the standard is NOT reasonably fears imminent bodily harm. Rather, its must be death or serious bodily harm.
I could see a jury going either way.
From your post, he did not have a weapon. You also never say he threatened to use physical force against you and he never actually touched you.
The question for a jury is whether a reasonable person under the same circumstances would have feared imminent danger to his life or serious bodily harm.
Here, was it imminent...yes
was the fear reasonable...yes
was is reasonable to fear death or serious bodily harm when the guy didnt threaten you and didnt have a weapon...i dont know what a jury would do
Keep in mind that the standard is NOT reasonably fears imminent bodily harm. Rather, its must be death or serious bodily harm.
I could see a jury going either way.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:46 am to CowboyPride
quote:well from what the OP said there is high chance that boy will be in jail by then, considering the demographic.
When after witnessing the death of his father the boy, who has since devoted his life to swordsmanship and martial arts, is stalking you and your family relentlessly, hell bent on the flavor of sweet revenge.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:48 am to gatorhater08
quote:
Better to kill him.
Yup, then it is just your side of the story.
This just made my day!
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:49 am to SECMAN16
That's why you shout don't cut me a few times before you shoot him. Then plant a knife while you act like you are giving him cpr after the shooting.
Flawless defense
Flawless defense
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:00 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
In Texas yes. If you told him to stop moving toward you and he continued you can shoot him.
What if they are deaf?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:05 pm to Sparkplug#1
I don't think you would have been justified to use lethal force given he was seemingly only running his mouth....
btw, why carry and have the weapon unloaded???
btw, why carry and have the weapon unloaded???
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:22 pm to steeltiger17
no not really but I'm sure you could lie your arse off about how scary and violent the man was and get off
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:23 pm to Sparkplug#1
quote:
What if they are deaf?
C'mon now, we all know "deaf" is code for black.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:29 pm to FISH N TIGER
quote:
There is no way in hell u can tell if he has a weapon
Exactly. What are you going to do? Pat him down before y'all fight? And even then who's to say he won't take your weapon and use it in you?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 4:55 pm to MikeBRLA
Tough guys in here. Shoot to kill. Geez, you rednecks sure are trigger happy. Seriously, the guy almost got shot because he confronted you? Obviously, he wasn't that pissed because someone else yelled at him and he left.
Next time instead of grabbing for a shotgun why not try to de-escalate the situation? Hell, jump in the car and lock it.
Bottom line is, unless you see a gun/knife pointed at you or a guy actually makes contact, pulling a gun is pretty damn wussyish. You freaks are out of control.
Think about this - someone cuts you off in a parking lot. You park walk toward them headed toward a store and call them an a-hole. Dude shoots you because you walked his direction looking "threatening."
The itchy trigger fingers and gun obsession on this board is bizarre.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 5:00 pm to steeltiger17
What you need is a good ol' butterfly knife.
And to learn how to use it.
And by learn to use it, I mean make it do all kinds of cool swings.
And to learn how to use it.
And by learn to use it, I mean make it do all kinds of cool swings.
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