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Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:45 pm to tigerinthebayou
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Again this is a video of a race at full throttle. This was not the case during the incident. Not near as much dust and much better handling of the car at lower speeds.
Again this gives you a view of what he sees to his right front.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:45 pm to Topwater Trout
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Now enlighten me with your point about dirtbike racing. I am sure it will have something to do with dirt being flung into your face? How is that relevant with TS?
Do you think no dirt gets kicked up when those cars lose traction through the turns?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:46 pm to Redbone
quote:Tony doesnt have that sense though
THEY HAVE BETTER SENSE THAN TO GET OUT ON A TRACK WHILE THE DRIVERS ARE STILL IN THE GETTING SLOWED DOWN MODE.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:47 pm to OneMoreTime
Yeah. I saw that, too. I'm talking about the people who aren't trolling.
I just don't see how these two points go with the same argument:
"Tony wasn't trying to kill him."
"He's one of the best driver in the world and everyone else missed Ward. So..."
I just don't see how these two points go with the same argument:
"Tony wasn't trying to kill him."
"He's one of the best driver in the world and everyone else missed Ward. So..."
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:48 pm to Topwater Trout
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how do they go so fast around a dust filled track not being able to see???
No dust. Tracks are oiled or watered down.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:50 pm to Rebel
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1:07 mark
Pit lane. Track workers present. Daylight. Better visibility in those cars. Learn about racing and cars.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:52 pm to LNCHBOX
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You ever race a dirt bike before?
Yes ... Motocross and enduro.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:52 pm to ell_13
Yeah those two sentences don't work together.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:53 pm to Topwater Trout
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yep...they had a track near my house. i only did it a few times. On a bicycle...not motor bike.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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the argument of the guys in your corner have stated this many times throughout the other thread. Did you call them out?
Not calling anyone out. I am seeing it in other places more than this site.
My corner is that there is no evidence to point towards Tony Stewart doing anything negligent. Kevin Ward made a bad decision that cost him his life. Hopefully rules will come out of this tragedy that makes racing safer. Much like what happened after Dale Sr died and the accidents that killed Jason Leffler last year and where Tony Stewart broke his leg, has made racing safer.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:55 pm to LNCHBOX
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Do you think no dirt gets kicked up when those cars lose traction through the turns?
Yes. I have never said otherwise. I also think they clear their visors when they slow down and no dirt was being flung in his face on the cool down lap when the incident happened.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:57 pm to Grassy1
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but anyone that comes on here and reads the self-proclaimed race experts calling anyone else's opinion as garbage, needs to look closely at the video themselves.
Tony won't be convicted, but his ego on the track will cost him. And costs Kevin his life.
You just officially went from ignorant to stupid. Uncurable and determined to prove it to the world.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:00 pm to Topwater Trout
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the argument of the guys in your corner have stated this many times throughout the other thread.
This ain't the other thread brah.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:00 pm to ell_13
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I just don't see how these two points go with the same argument: "Tony wasn't trying to kill him." "He's one of the best driver in the world and everyone else missed Ward. So..."
Pretty sad that you can't figure out how those two sentences can't go together. Are you really incapable of figuring out how a guy could not intend to kill someone could make an error in judgement? really? the best drivers in the world don't make errors every week? How in the hell do they wreck so much and why do drivers get mad at one another for wrecking them?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:00 pm to OneMoreTime
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It's obvious to me that Tony bumped the gas exactly when he was next to Kevin. I can SEE and HEAR it. If you can't, you're just trying to ignore it.
You have no way of knowing if that sound is coming from Stewart's car, which is far away from the camera.
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Tony won't be convicted, but his ego on the track will cost him. And costs Kevin his life.
You sure as hell have already convicted him.
As I said, it's OBVIOUS (to me) that Stewart bumped the gas.. I can SEE it, and HEAR it. If you can't, you're choosing to ignore it.
Don't confuse conviction with opinion.
But yes, in my mind, he's guilty of ego created carelessness.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:01 pm to Redbone
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This ain't the other thread brah.
go tell them not to use dusty conditions as a reason why drivers cant see on those tracks
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:01 pm to OneMoreTime
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You sure as hell have already convicted him.
and he did it with no facts .. just opinion.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:01 pm to Redbone
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but anyone that comes on here and reads the self-proclaimed race experts calling anyone else's opinion as garbage, needs to look closely at the video themselves.
Tony won't be convicted, but his ego on the track will cost him. And costs Kevin his life.
You just officially went from ignorant to stupid. Uncurable and determined to prove it to the world.
Feel free to point out my error, if you can.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:02 pm to Grassy1
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and HEAR it.
You're so full of shite.
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If you can't, you're choosing to ignore it.
Or you heard one of the other dozens of cars on the track. Some of which were much closer to the camera than TS's.
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