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OT Advice Needed: Smoke damage in home

Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:01 pm
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:01 pm
So backstory, I live in an apartment building where all the units are accessed from the interior (think like a hotel) and there are no windows that open. Today while I was at work, I got a call from the leasing office saying there was a fire on my floor. It was in a different unit about 150 feet from mine, and while the fire was contained, the smoke damage to the floor is noticeable. My unit is far enough away there’s no soot or visible damage, but the smell of smoke is pretty overwhelming in my apartment, including all of my clothing. Anyone dealt with cleanup for smoke damage? How can I get rid of the smell? Should I expect the landlord to pay for the mitigation? Help is appreciated.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:02 pm to
Where there’s smoke, she pokes.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:03 pm to
I have no experience but you should definitely be covered by your landlord to pay for the fix.
Posted by Alan Garner
thigh-land
Member since Oct 2009
3433 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:03 pm to
ask the apartment to get maintenance to use an ozone machine in your apartment. there are good, safe chemicals that can penetrate the dry-wall, paint, everything in the unit to get rid of the smells.

most apartments have something like this.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:04 pm to
Man you are lucky there is no soot. That shite gets everywhere and is a MFer to clean up.

Get a restoration company to quote you on cleaning everything while the landlord is figuring out what to do/offer.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

ask the apartment to get maintenance to use an ozone machine in your apartment. there are good, safe chemicals that can penetrate the dry-wall, paint, everything in the unit to get rid of the smells.

most apartments have something like this.


Yeah I was wondering about the ozone fix. Are the chemicals like a brush-on/spray on kind of thing?
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 10:07 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:07 pm to
They should use Killz Max or BIN primer to seal the smoke smell if it's really that bad. Preferably oil based.

Make sure they use that or refuse to live there.

Step 1: Wash everything (including windows) with Tri-Sodim Phosphate, and rinse well

Step 2: Seal with primer



This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:07 pm to
Do you live in a large building owned by a management company? If so, they will definitely cover you although you may be stuck waiting for a week or so.
Posted by Alan Garner
thigh-land
Member since Oct 2009
3433 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:07 pm to
it’s a fogging machine, and usually, depending on the size of the unit, they’ll only need it for 15-20 mins. Can even run it into the duct system to have the AC also circulate the enzyme which eats the odors.

namco makes the best fogger/enzyme I’ve seen:
namco micro fogger/liquid alive
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 10:10 pm
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15518 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Do you live in a large building owned by a management company? If so, they will definitely cover you although you may be stuck waiting for a week or so.


Yeah it’s a sizable company thankfully. Should I expect to have to move out during this process? Or can it be mitigated with me in place?
Posted by Alan Garner
thigh-land
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Yeah it’s a sizable company thankfully. Should I expect to have to move out during this process? Or can it be mitigated with me in place?


Depending on how bad it is, you might just need to be out of the unit, maybe a few hours to worst-case scenario, a day.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:12 pm to
Call ServPro. They handle smoke mitigation.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15518 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Depending on how bad it is, you might just need to be out of the unit, maybe a few hours to worst-case scenario, a day.



That’s manageable I guess. Thanks for the good info
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106093 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:14 pm to
Do you have renter’s insurance? Because that’s probably all the coverage you will get. Most landlords are not liable for damage to personal items.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:17 pm to
My issue was different but it could be helpful. After a hurricane, I had ceiling damage that occurred when water seeped in through the balcony above me. So there was a mold issue. They ended up tearing out a good portion of the ceiling and then replacing it over a two week period. This was over the living room.

Since it wasn’t an issue in either bedroom, we stayed. They offered to have us move to a unit on another floor if the paint smell was irritating though.

Unsure about the chemical exposure for this smoke issue, but I would think you would either stay in your unit or move to a vacant one elsewhere in the complex without any charge.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:20 pm to
This is also true, relating to the clothes and furniture. But they would need to make the apartment livable with regards to the chemicals and odors. Since it’s a regional or national management company, there is little chance of true mismanagement. With an individual landlord the variation would be huge. Some will go above and beyond while others will need to be threatened with litigation.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56030 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:26 pm to
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think the landlord is liable for much of anything. Every rental property that I have ever rented spelled this out in the agreement and recommended that I get renter's insurance. Your clothes, should be ok with a couple of good washings...but I'd bet that place will smell like smoke for a long time. Personally, I would psychologically prepare myself to move out, if that is what becomes necessary.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15518 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think the landlord is liable for much of anything. Every rental property that I have ever rented spelled this out in the agreement and recommended that I get renter's insurance.


Yeah I think you’re right, thankfully I do have renters insurance.

quote:

Personally, I would psychologically prepare myself to move out, if that is what becomes necessary.


I literally just resigned on an 18 month lease 2 weeks ago
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:06 pm to
Do you have renters insurance? It should cover your personal property from smoke damage.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:08 pm to
Also, you could sue whoever caused the fire for your damages or threaten to sue them. Good luck man, that is a bummer
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