re: One of the most famous photographs in history was taken 81 years ago today...

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And Bradley was there the entire time, having participated in the first, smaller raising.

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some pretty suspicious events surrounding Bradley over the years. he KNEW he wasnt in the second raising all those years

I thought you were going to show the picture of the Sailor kissing a woman (stranger) after he came home from Europe, after WWII ended.

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It was an iron pipe. Try mounting that on a mountain top.

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thatswhatshesaid

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Worst assignment that could be given = number one target of all Japs = survival rate lowest of any other.

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But boy was it effective

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it was 100% staged

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staged in that they were replacing a smaller flag with a larger flag, it’s not like it was captioned or presented as them charging up Suribachi under a hail of gunfire to raise the flag

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You are being downvoted but it was 100% staged.

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Just to be clear, you are saying it was staged deliberately and specifically for the photo opportunity? Is that your position?

Are they sticking it in some morbidly obeese liberals arse?

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some pretty suspicious events surrounding Bradley over the years. he KNEW he wasnt in the second raising all those years

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I don't fault anyone for how they behaved after Iwo, even Gagnon.

There was a lot of confusion at the top, weird jockeying by so-called leaders on the ground and there was still a raging battle going on. Nowhere is this better illustrated than the fates of the flag raisers.

Hansen and Thomas (first raising) both KIA on Iwo and Hansen's participation in the first raising (as well as Bradley's) almost certainly caused the confusion in their being identified for the second, more famous photo and raising. Recall, there are photos of the first raising as well.

Strank and Block were in the second raising/photo and were also KIA on Iwo.

This was a 40-man patrol and many of them from both raisings posed for a group picture after the raising with the large flag in the background.

It is dramatized in Flags of Our Fathers, but once it became a publicity storm, the participants of the action tried to raise these accuracy concerns and clear up confusion about who raised which flag and who was in each iconic photograph. They were told to STFU and go raise war bond money. Period.

It isn't any more complicated than that.

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Just to be clear, you are saying it was staged deliberately and specifically for the photo opportunity? Is that your position?

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The position that some folks take on this, i.e. the staging advocates, lumps them in with the moon hoaxers and flat earthers.

Schrier was ORDERED to take a flag to the top and raise it. He did so. Once his patrol had the summit relatively secured, the senior leadership on the ground decided 2 things - 1. Someone important wanted that flag and 2. There needed to be a bigger flag up there that could be seen more clearly by U.S. land and sea forces.

The decision was made to secure the first (i.e. the real one) flag and hand a more impressive one over to the big cheese at some later time. This all happened on February 23. The island was not secured for almost 5 more weeks. I don't know what folks think was going on there, but it was not a badminton tournament.

Rosenthal wasn't there after the battle to document things for fluff. He was a combat photographer embedded with the USMC. He was headed up to document the flag raisings. He did so, the best he could.

Again, the patrol took heavy casualties after both raisings on Mt Suribachi. I know one isn't supposed to argue or get frustrated with mentally disabled people, but come the frick on....

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Incredible that Suribachi, the island's dominant feature, was crested on D+4 but the island wasn't declared secure until over a month later. Just an absolute slog.

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There's likely a jap or 2 hiding in the mountains that still don't know Hirohito surrendered