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re: Once again...before I am banned...happy feast day of the Immaculate Conception!

Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:44 pm to
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GreenRockTiger

oh this should be good
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:45 pm to


No snack tonight - stomach virus in the house

I better start worshiping Mary
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:46 pm to
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- stomach virus in the house

ewwww bet the hovel smells great
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:48 pm to
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ewwww bet the hovel smells great
sure does (not)
Posted by highup7
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:50 pm to
Not all Protestant denominations drink grape juice.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:53 pm to
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Not all Protestant denominations drink grape juice.
yes I know

But my dad grew up Baptist so I like to make fun
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:55 pm to


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Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:57 pm to
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You have Jesus's own response to Mariolatry, so anyone trying to defend the veneration of Mary, for any reason whatsoever, is trying to defend the indefensible.
but couldn’t that be interpreted that she (Mary) is more blessed because she listened to God in the first place - not necessarily because she raised God?

Jesus wouldn’t be here if Mary hadn’t obeyed

Plus the dogma of the immaculate conception came out a few hundred years after Luther - so you don’t know what you’re protesting - it had been discussed for centuries but not made official until later
This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:01 pm to
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wait!!

Conception to birth in 2 1/2 weeks?


catholics think that?


Immaculate Conception is Mary's conception.
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:14 pm to



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Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:16 pm to
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Jesus made it clear. It's not about Mary, in any form, whatsoever.

That's not what he's saying here. Yes he's focusing on obeying the word of God. He not making a theological statement about the veneration of Mary.

Edit: I'm no theologian and am certainly not prepared to have this debate, especially here. But here's a nice write-up if you care about the true catholic position on the matter.

Mary

LINK


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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:21 pm to

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Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:23 pm to
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God does not share his glory with anyone.
Catholics do not believe that Mary shares God’s glory - get that out of your head

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It really could not be more clear.
it’s really not clear just because you interpret it differently and construe your meaning how you want it to be

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if you study Scripture,
newsflash that’s what I do

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Jesus's entire ministry did he say, hint, allude, suggest: "If you can't get through to me, you can always try going through my mom."
although He gave His mother to the Apostle John and listens to her at the wedding

Do you not ask other people to pray for you? Or you can do it all by yourself?

What about your interpretation of Luke 18:19?
This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:26 pm to
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I ask you, my dear friend, to read carefully the first chapter of the Gospel of St. Luke, verse 26 to verse 55. It is very hard to understand how any Christian can study this passage and then refuse to honor Mary. Why, the “Hail Mary,” which Catholics love to address to the Blessed Virgin, is explicitly given there; part of it was said by the angel Gabriel and part by Elizabeth. The angel was inspired by God and Elizabeth “was filled with the Holy Ghost” (v. 41). Let us put together the words that the angel Gabriel and Elizabeth addressed to Mary: “Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed are thou among women” (v. 28). “Blessed are thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.” Here we have the salutation that Catholics address to Mary. The only addition we have made are the two names, “Mary” and “Jesus.” So that, in saying the Hail, Mary, Catholics are explicitly following the Bible. I shall deal with the second part of this prayer presently.

You will notice, my dear friend, that Mary in that sublime canticle known as the Magnificat, which is recorded by the inspired writer from verse 46 to 55, declared: “Behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed” (v. 48). Who, I ask, fulfills this prophecy: those who refuse to apply the adjective blessed to the Virgin Mary, or Catholics, who love to call Mary the Blessed Virgin?




From the link I posted above.
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Posted by LetTheTigerOut
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Posted by LetTheTigerOut
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:38 pm to



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Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:40 pm to
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I take it right from Jesus.
no you don’t - He saying His mother is blessed because she listened to God

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She's not in any way, shape, or form on any equal standing with Lord the Father, or Jesus the Savior.
no one has said that - that is your misinterpretation, and to downplay Mary, the mother of God, who is called blessed in scripture, who was handpicked by God to be His Son’s mother leads me to believe you interpret scripture to your benefit - pride leaves God out
Posted by LetTheTigerOut
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:54 pm to


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Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:55 pm to
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Thanks for your trouble; however, I don't need the Catholic church's interpretation. I already have the authoritative word right from Jesus.


Then why even comment in this thread, champ?
Posted by Guntoter1
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:02 pm to
Hail Mary full of grace the lord is with you. Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb.

The words of the angel to Mary and the words of Elisabeth to Mary.

It’s in the Bible
This is the prayer we say when we ask Mary to pray for us.
We repeat scripture.
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