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On this day 158 years ago, Vicksburg surrendered to Union forces (July 4, 1863)
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:13 am
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:13 am
It was most certainly a Fourth of July to remember if you were a lover of the Union. Robert E. Lee had suffered his first major defeat up in Gettysburg the day before. And on July 4, 1863, Ulysses S. Grant won what is arguably one of the greatest strategic victories in American military history with his capture of Vicksburg. This victory gave Union forces unfettered access to the whole of the Mississippi River, effectively cutting the Confederacy in two. No longer could Texas, Arkansas, and Confederate-controlled Louisiana and Missouri send supplies and men to other parts of the Confederacy.
Grant would ride the wave of his victory to become the commanding officer of all Union forces in the Western Theater - an act which culminated in his most brilliant tactical victory, the Battle of Chattanooga. The latter battle would convince Lincoln that he had found his general and would in good time promote Grant to General-in-Chief of all Union Armies.
Grant would ride the wave of his victory to become the commanding officer of all Union forces in the Western Theater - an act which culminated in his most brilliant tactical victory, the Battle of Chattanooga. The latter battle would convince Lincoln that he had found his general and would in good time promote Grant to General-in-Chief of all Union Armies.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 7:14 am
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Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:21 am to RollTide1987
Mississippi in last place for 158 years and counting
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:35 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:55 am to RollTide1987
Who knew that 158 years later, idiots would still be flying the loser Confederate flag.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:04 am to RGJ18
Who knew 158 years later people wouldn’t be able to understand history in context.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:08 am to RollTide1987
And how long did Vicksburg refuse to celebrate Independence Day?
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:10 am to MikeAV8s
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Who knew 158 years later people wouldn’t be able to understand history in context.
That person you're responding to is just triggered because he knows he can't do shite about what a person does other than flap his gums. It's the outcry of a wuss
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:14 am to McVick
Wasn’t it like 80-something years they refused to celebrate?
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:17 am to RollTide1987
Odd to me that Gettysburg is during that time period of the war. I always put it during the last days of the war.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:18 am to jeffsdad
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Odd to me that Gettysburg is during that time period of the war. I always put it during the last days of the war.
Gettysburg is often built up as the turning point of the war and the beginning of the end of the Confederacy. People forget that it took two more years and hundreds of thousands of lives for the armies to arrive at Appomattox. I'm of the school of thought that there was no true turning point of the war. The Confederacy just ran out of manpower and supplies.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 8:19 am
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:23 am to RGJ18
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Who knew that 158 years later, idiots would still be flying the loser Confederate flag.
Meanwhile, 158 years later. We have idiots that support BLM.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:25 am to RollTide1987
Been thinking about this actually
THIS year feels like Vicksburg in 1864...
THIS year feels like Vicksburg in 1864...
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:27 am to dcbl
I had 3 gggrandfathers who fought at Vicksburg. All with Mississippi units
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:33 am to MikeAV8s
Well they flying a blm flag and building statues of drug dealers so...............
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:34 am to RollTide1987
Actually you could argue that both Gettysburg ind Vicksburg are indicative of your supply and manpower assertion. Grant choked off the supply lines with an assist from Farragut taking NO and some argue that Gettysburg was a foraging on a large scale mission. But if you are going to invade your enemy's territory you better not have his army of the same or greater size follow you. Ideally on an invasion you want a 2 to 1 advantage.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:35 am to RollTide1987
And Vicksburg didn't celebrate the 4th for almost 100 years after
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:39 am to SavageOrangeJug
In what American city is that? Baltimore?
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:39 am to RollTide1987
Gettysburg and Vicksburg also ended any hope of foreign recognition of the confederacy.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:40 am to geauxtigers87
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Gettysburg and Vicksburg also ended any hope of foreign recognition of the confederacy
If Davis had promised to abolish slavery after the war, Britain would have come in on their side.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:42 am to RollTide1987
My great, great, great grandfather was a sergeant in the 39th GA., Company H (Gilmer Tigers) and was taken prisoner that day after Pemberton surrendered. He was part of the prisoner exchange that took place soon thereafter.
The siege of Vicksburg that took place prior to the surrender is a good study of one of the most miserable experiences for a local population in the civil war.
The siege of Vicksburg that took place prior to the surrender is a good study of one of the most miserable experiences for a local population in the civil war.
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