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re: On this date 157 years ago - the bloodiest single day in American history occurred
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:46 pm to Loup
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:46 pm to Loup
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Fixed. Slavery wasnt completely ended until December of 1865
FIFY
13th Amendment wasn't ratified until December 1865. Despite the war, it was still legal under the Constitution.
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:48 pm to TejasHorn
Had a great great uncle killed at Antietam. Part of the seventeenth Mississippi that was at the garrison at Harpers Ferry . Probably killed in the afternoon at the bridge as the troops arrived later in the day
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
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more than 3,600 men were dead
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More American dead than D-Day
I don't think that's right.
2,500 allied dead.
2/3rds usa.
Canada and British the rest.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:42 pm to Kcrad
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Neat, I don't think the structure is original.
‘Souvenirs’ from Dunker Church were ‘liberated’ for damn near 80 years before a tornado destroyed what was left of the building in 1921, after which a residence and then a tourist souvenir shop were built on the foundation. Current structure was rebuilt on the original foundation in time to open for the centennial in 1962.
I try to go there every 2-3 years on the way to Gettysburg.
The compactness and layout of the battlefield is a thing to be marveled. Most of those boys never had a chance. It’s unreal in person.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:11 pm to CelticDog
~185k died in a few days (~110k instantly) in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:20 pm to RollTide1987
Those are Louisiana soldiers in some of those photos. Two of my great, great, uncles were at the battle with the 9th Louisiana Infantry. One was badly wounded and ended up back in St. Tammany Parish, the other came home and joined Ogden's Cavalry and bushwhacked through out the Florida Parishes and parts surrounding.
This battle was supposed to be a surprise attack on Northern soil, and would have succeeded had some Confederate officer not dropped a bundle of cigars wrapped in Lee's battle plan (Procedural Order 191). The war could have very much taken a completely different course or possible have ended had this not happened.
This battle was supposed to be a surprise attack on Northern soil, and would have succeeded had some Confederate officer not dropped a bundle of cigars wrapped in Lee's battle plan (Procedural Order 191). The war could have very much taken a completely different course or possible have ended had this not happened.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:25 pm to CelticDog
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More American dead than D-Day
I will not besmirch or lessen the heroism & sacrifice of our brave men who took part in D-Day of Operation Overlord. But I will say this battle has taken on a legendary status with the American public. However, in terms of American casualties, D-Day saw a surprisingly low casualty count. There were other far bloodier battles to come though, battles most American know little to nothing about.
Side note: speaking for forgotten battles, the single bloodiest battle in American history wasn’t during either the Civil War or even World War II. It was a month-long battle in World War I, the Battle of the Argonne Forest that claimed 26,277 American lives and left 95,786 wounded,
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:27 pm to RollTide1987
History Racist. Take down now. REEEEEEEEEEE!
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:32 pm to tketaco
STFU
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:36 am to RollTide1987
My great-great-grandfather was killed there. Sergeant in the 38th Georgia Infantry. His unit was severely depleted by Yankee artillery in the Cornfield, then withdrawn to be relieved by Hays' Tigers. (Working from memory here.)
I've visited there and also the Confederate cemetery in Hagerstown, where he (most likely) and many others lie in mass graves.
I've visited there and also the Confederate cemetery in Hagerstown, where he (most likely) and many others lie in mass graves.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:39 am to Cold Drink
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STFU
NUSTFU
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:26 am to udtiger
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13th Amendment wasn't ratified until December 1865. Despite the war, it was still legal under the Constitution.
And correct me if I'm wrong but the southern states were not the largest contingency to ratify the Constitution?
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:28 am to RollTide1987
I present to you, "reparations"
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:59 am to TaderSalad
I toured that battlefield and it was a very fluid battle
With lines changing constantly. When Lee marched thru the next year to go to Gettysburg there were still bones on the ground unearthed after rains.
With lines changing constantly. When Lee marched thru the next year to go to Gettysburg there were still bones on the ground unearthed after rains.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:54 am to RollTide1987
I’ve been to Antietam, the Battle of the Wilderness, Shiloh, Franklin, Bull Run, Lookout Mnt, Kennasaw/Atlanta, SC lowlands it’s enough to shake ones soul thinking about what occurred on those sites....
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:24 pm to Rambler
I think that Georgia unit was embedded with my great, great grandfather's Texas Division, along with some units from Arkansas. The First Texas companies that fought back and forth through Miller's cornfield a number of times throughout the day suffered the highest casualty rate ever of any American unit in combat with 83% of the soldiers participating being killed or wounded. Approximately 700 men charged through the cornfield and only a little over 100 returned unscathed. When Union units captured the Texans' flag it was reported that thirteen men had been killed bearing it. My gggrandfather was wounded there. I believe members of that Union artillery battery were awarded the Medal of Honor, some posthumously.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:51 pm to Wolfhound45
Lincoln fired McClelland due to his fricking up the Peninsula Campaign
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:58 pm to Darth_Vader
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World War I,
The whole war especially on the Western Front was wanton slaughter...especially Verdun.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:07 pm to RollTide1987
The ancestral family inbreeding grounds are ~65 miles away from Antietam.
Our area changed hands around 50 times and much of our private property was “liberated” during the evacuations and occupations.
Where’s muh reparations?
Our area changed hands around 50 times and much of our private property was “liberated” during the evacuations and occupations.
Where’s muh reparations?
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