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re: OLOL is givimg employees until 10/31 to be vaccinated or be fired.

Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4756 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:20 pm to
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They have given themselves 3 months to staff up for those who won't stay. They will be fine through this wave.


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Judging by what the hospitals are doing to stay staffed it appears they are telling the truth this time about staffing.

Last year staffing shortages were not treated this was.


So which one is it, are they having staffing shortages, or not? If they will be fine, why don't they remedy the shortage now and stop with the "overwhelmed" rhetoric. Or are you trying to have it both ways?
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3371 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:21 pm to
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They have to quarantine employees who test positive, which means they are losing that productivity until they can return to work. '

There is also the chance that people leave the job because they don't want to get the vaccine. Which means that they are losing the productivity of those employees.

Both cases negatively impact their ability to treat patients at full capacity. They've evaluated the potential risk for each decision, evaluated their own employee data that we don't have access to, and arrived at the conclusion that they'd lose less productivity by requiring employees to be vaccinated.

Just because you don't agree with the conclusion they reached doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense.




This. It's not hard to comprehend. I'm so sick of the nutjob conspiracy theorists who think everyone is out to get them in every possible way.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76380 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:21 pm to
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I also thought, and might be wrong, that the vaccines had a relatively short shelf life.


6 months or so.

Them going bad is better for the manufacturers pocketbook. Only means they get to sell more to replace those that weren't used in time.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:21 pm to
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If they’ve evaluated the risks and determined the best way forward, why bother holding a press conference to tell everyone you’re short staffed and need help?

Seems like a simple statement of, “We have realized our problems and have a plan in place to address them” would have sufficed, no?



You are getting into the politics behind Covid. And that's a tragic reality that is often not directly correlated with logical thought.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76380 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:22 pm to
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So which one is it, are they having staffing shortages, or not? If they will be fine, why don't they remedy the shortage now and stop with the "overwhelmed" rhetoric. Or are you trying to have it both ways?


I would imagine in the peak of this wave they would probably be shortstaffed and looking forward they will be better staffed?
Posted by MontanaLivin
Member since Jun 2021
37 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Really not unusual for a healthcare provider to require their employees to get the vaccine.


For FDA approved vaccines? sure

For this???
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3865 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:23 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51002 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:23 pm to
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You are getting into the politics behind Covid. And that's a tragic reality that is often not directly correlated with logical thought.


Announcing that you have a plan in place to address problems rather than spewing horseshite rhetoric is political and not logical?

You sure about that?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:25 pm to
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For FDA approved vaccines? sure


It will be FDA approved by the time the date comes


Then what will be your excuse?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76380 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:25 pm to
If they told the employees privately instead of making a public statement it would have lasted about 24hours before hitting the press. They controlled the narrative.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51002 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:26 pm to
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If they told the employees privately instead of making a public statement it would have lasted about 24hours before hitting the press. They controlled the narrative.




It wouldn’t matter when it hit the airwaves had they not come out and begged for help due to shortages on those same airwaves.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30032 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:27 pm to
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I'm fine with this, but if the vaccine does turn out to have long-term health effects, any employer that requires it as a condition of employment should be on the hook to pay for those consequences. Since the vaccine makers are already exempt.


CICP/VICP covers the vaccines.

If one is required for employment and causation can be shown then it is covered by workers comp as well.

Both are types of tort reform.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76380 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:27 pm to
You realize they aren't firing them today, right?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:27 pm to
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I'm fine with this, but if the vaccine does turn out to have long-term health effects, any employer that requires it as a condition of employment should be on the hook to pay for those consequences. Since the vaccine makers are already exempt.



I can see that...if the they knew of a long term health problem associated with the drugs.
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3371 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:28 pm to
I don't want my life in the hands of anyone that can't spell heroes
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
8086 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:28 pm to
#2 wood get it
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Then what will be your excuse?



He has to check with Jenny McCarthy and Alex Jones first....depending on his politics.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51002 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:30 pm to
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You realize they aren't firing them today, right?


So? Are there going to be a surplus of available vaccinated nurses once cold and flu season hit that aren’t available now?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:30 pm to
The nurses bitching about getting the vaccine are the bottom of the barrel types anyways. Doesn’t matter most of their colleagues and highly educated physicians they work for are all vaccinated. They supposedly “know what’s really up” and are refusing the vaccine

Probably also sells essential oils or some other MLM shite on fb.
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