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re: Ole Miss student found shot 8 times in lake bottom...UPDATE: Arrest has been made

Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:11 pm to
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That sounds like more than speculation



How so?
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10972 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:15 pm to
Im not saying it isn't pure speculation, it's just very detailed and very plausible thats exactly what happened. I guess I was implying that the poster really knows thats what happened, but then again I haven't followed the entire thread.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:28 pm to
No one knows anything definitively except the following:

- Ally was killed by multiple gun shot wounds late Friday/early Saturday the weekend in question
- She visited at least one bar the night she was killed
- Her body was found north of Sardis Lake, which is not a common area for students to hang out (they visit the South side by Ole Miss)
- Her relationship with Brandon Theesfield is complicated and goes back years
- He was arrested for her murder in South Memphis
- Suspect's sister was in sorority with victim (not important but interesting)
- He has a very punchable face
- His dad likes to say controversial right wing stuff on twitter and is a wealthy "pain clinic" owner/doctor


What we're pretty positive of:

- He's a gun owner (Glock 9mm reportedly always in his truck)
- She had at the very least told people she was pregnant, but her actual pregnancy is unverified
- There was the presence of physical evidence on him and/or in his truck at the time of arrest
- There is video evidence of the suspect's truck in the vicinity of where the victim was found near the alleged time of the incident

Common rumors:

- He had a drug and alcohol problem
- He had a rage issue and her friends said he was not good to her (emotionally abusive)
- He had blood still on him and her belongings still in his truck a couple days later when he was arrested
- He wanted her to get abortion, she refused
- She was found in a seated position, slumped over, on a concrete picnic table near the lake
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1320 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:35 pm to
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but we have screenshots of texts to Brandon from Ally a week before the murder detailing her pregnancy symptoms.


These were the text from her to him that she fowarded to another friend, but don't know if he responded to her novel of texts. He could have blocked her cell number.

This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:40 pm to
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These were the text from her to him, but don't know if he responded to her novel of texts. He could have blocked her cell number.


I doubt that, but sure, it's technically possible.

It seemed from the language that she started from a position that she had already told him the clear "I'm pregnant" part. She was describing symptoms.
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1320 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:50 pm to
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I doubt that, but sure, it's technically possible.


What? Block a cellphone number? I do that all the time...

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she started from a position that she had already told him the clear "I'm pregnant" part. She was describing symptoms.


But on his behalf... if someone texted me a message that filled multiple screens... I not sure I will read them. Just saying...
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:54 pm to
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The people that knew her that have spoken about her all say she was the nicest person ever.

This is said about every person that has something like this happen to them. No one is gonna come out and publicly bash a girl that got murdered even if she was the biggest bitch on earth
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50687 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Ole Miss board is saying the rumor is that there was a fake Uber driver.
My daughter started OU this week. They have a rider service under contract for the kids so they can avoid Uber. That way, if a student is off campus and isn't sober, or their ride is missing or their ride isn't sober, they call this number and the local service comes and picks them up. No charge to the student, and everyone in the ride service has passed a thorough background check.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:18 pm to
Please don't bump shite like that. There is absolutely no fake uber driver involved here.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:20 pm to
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What? Block a cellphone number? I do that all the time...



Not from chicks you've impregnated.

Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:28 pm to
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6. Brandon and Ally met, and she dropped the news that she was still pregnant. Also that she was too advanced in her pregnancy, 17 weeks, for an elective abortion. (If she found out that she was pregnant in April the dates will match).


Did she appear over 4 months pregnant in the outside bar video? I cannot recall.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:30 pm to
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Did she appear over 4 months pregnant in the outside bar video? I cannot recall.



Can't really tell.

I've seen women who barely show at 17 weeks and some that are obvious.

And the video is from across the street.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38138 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:44 pm to
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This is said about every person that has something like this happen to them. No one is gonna come out and publicly bash a girl that got murdered even if she was the biggest bitch on earth



Exactly. She very well may have been an angel, but people saying she was so nice after she was brutally murdered is exactly how every case goes. It means nothing.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141065 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:44 pm to
The news today (John Roberts with Fox) said Memphis cops said he had what appeared to be blood on his clothes and they recovered a gun.

That was the first time I heard the media report that.

I think whatever “new information” the defense learned had something to do with the results of the evidence being tested. — just my opinion on that.

I will day for the most part, the police have a done a good job not letting information leak.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:45 pm to
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Man, I think he just asked a question.


I know it is odd on here but it was an honest question. I tried to find the video in the early part of the thread and couldn't so I just asked in response to a "theory" post.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:48 pm to
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The news today (John Roberts with Fox) said Memphis cops said he had what appeared to be blood on his clothes and they recovered a gun.

That was the first time I heard the media report that.


Yep, that's a big development. That was just rumored before.

quote:

I think whatever “new information” the defense learned had something to do with the results of the evidence being tested. — just my opinion on that.


Agree. Or they have somehow placed him at the scene at the time using a digital footprint or something.

quote:

I will day for the most part, the police have a done a good job not letting information leak.



They really have. Was expecting this to be a revolving door of leaking information.
Posted by saralsim
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
515 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:40 pm to
For those of you that have never been pregnant before and are still hung up on whether or not she was or should have been showing, a chick her age and with her petite frame would definitely not have been showing at 17 weeks. I’m pretty sure she taught fitness classes too. I was pregnant my last year of college, and wasn’t showing at that time. Your uterus grows but your skin doesn’t stretch overnight. It’s why a lot of people show more quickly with their second or third child - because their shite is already stretched out. Also, keep in mind:
quote:

A baby at pregnancy week 17 is the size of a pomegranate. Your 17-week fetus is about 5.1 inches long and weighs about 5.9 ounces.

17 weeks is still fairly early and most of your weight gain typically comes in the third trimester.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45150 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 5:38 am to
Does anybody have any idea of the future timeline? I know he is supposed to get the mental eval., but am unsure how long that takes. When is he due back in a courtroom?
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6990 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:28 am to
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"We are withdrawing our request for a bond hearing at this time. We are also making a request for a psychiatric evaluation and we consulted with the district attorneys office and they are in agreement that we will get an order from the court, and the defendant will be examined by the state hospital.”

It was a curveball for a lot of people in the courtroom, but there were those there who saw it coming. There had been a meeting on Wednesday night between the prosecution and the defense. Whatever happened there was something neither the prosecution nor the defense would discuss beyond saying there was new information that had caused the defense to change tracks.


WLBT3
Posted by WarDamnBoudin
God's Country
Member since Jan 2018
284 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:29 am to
what did I miss?
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