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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Wtodd - nice jinx

Back atcha
Posted by jivy26
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:23 pm to
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re: Malaysia Airlines loses contact with passenger jet (Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:21 pm to TigerHam85)
At the risk of thousands more lives they would. If you don't think governments would sacrifice the 230 to prevent a crash in a highly populated metropolitan area, you are crazy.


Hell i've seen Jack Bauer do it on many occasions
Posted by JAXTiger16
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:24 pm to
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quote: The masks in Payne Stewart's plane deployed but someone turned the the oxygen tanks OFF. That isn't true.


I think what happened in that was the change in pressure was so severe in knocked them unconscious and then without the ability to go on oxygen, they all died.
Posted by TigerHam85
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:24 pm to
I agree they would, but they would also have made it public by now. Nobody would blame them if they had a valid reason.

So why are they keeping quiet?
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:25 pm to
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The masks in Payne Stewart's plane deployed but someone turned the the oxygen tanks OFF.

That isn't true


OK fair enough; I'm 95% sure I read a long time ago that the oxygen tanks were in the OFF position but I just looked it up and found this.

quote:

The NTSB determined that:

The probable cause of this accident was incapacitation of the flight crew members as a result of their failure to receive supplemental oxygen following a loss of cabin pressurization, for undetermined reasons.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:26 pm to
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At the risk of thousands more lives they would. If you don't think governments would sacrifice the 230 to prevent a crash in a highly populated metropolitan area, you are crazy.


Exactly the way I feel about this situation.

There was a looming threat perceived if communication was in fact not working, or turned off. Your hands are tied on what to do after a certain point. The plane must be taken down.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
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I'm just still laughing at those who claimed it was not a big area in that tiny sea and debris would have been found by now.


It only looks like it's about an inch wide based on the map. What gives?
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Not really. Depends where they were looking.
The post to which I was replying stated that the pilot was suicidal and crashed the plane into the ocean, I believe (i.e., without going off course by hundreds/thousands of miles). So, yes, if that were the case, it would absolutely have been found by now. IMO
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
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I think what happened in that was the change in pressure was so severe in knocked them unconscious and then without the ability to go on oxygen, they all died.


Yeah, they just said it was lack of oxygen and couldn't tell if it was a slow leak or a quick knockout. They just said the pilots weren't able to get their masks. There was also a lot of repair work on cabin pressure, but the company didn't document why it was done, so they couldn't tell if it might of had something to do with that.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
Why did they wait three days to release the last known location was actually on the other side of Malaysia? I don't know.

Perhaps because of the families or international backlash? I'm really not sure. I just don't think the path jives with an accident occurring.
Posted by MikeBRLA
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:30 pm to
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On 911 the terrorists tuned them [the transponders] off from the cockpit which is why it was so hard to know where the planes were.


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This is not true.



According to the official 911 commission report they did.

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At 8:54, the aircraft deviated from its assigned course, turning south. Two minutes later the transponder was turned off and even primary radar contact with the aircraft was lost. The Indianapolis Air Traffic Control Center repeatedly tried and failed to contact the aircraft. American Airlines dispatchers also tried, without success.


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On 9/11, the terrorists turned off the transponders on three of the four hijacked aircraft.


LINK




Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:31 pm to
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(CNN) -- Breaking news update at 1:23 p.m. ET]
The Malaysian Air Force has traced the last known location of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 to a spot above Pulau Perak, a very small island in the Straits of Malacca

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Pulau Perak


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Posted by beejon
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:31 pm to
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Why did they wait three days to release the last known location was actually on the other side of Malaysia?


To give resources time to get into position?
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:32 pm to
I'll take Q13
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:32 pm to
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I agree they would, but they would also have made it public by now. Nobody would blame them if they had a valid reason.

So why are they keeping quiet?


Because nobody wants to be blamed for making that decision. Many people would believe the reasons were not valid etc.. Then you get into having to explain protocol on shooting a plane down. It would end up being a mess.
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:33 pm to
Bad thing is, we'll have to listen to days of I told you so from those who are right.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:33 pm to
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It would end up being a mess.

Too late, we're there.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
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To give resources time to get into position?


Could be.

However, with the Malaysian civilian authorities looking silly when 3 days later their own military says, "Uh - no, we tracked it going the other way." - that suggests a lot of things, none of them good.
Posted by Ignignot
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
Why did this thread shrink?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Why did this thread shrink?


Chicken taking out the garbage, metaphorically speaking.
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