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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:01 am to Napoleon
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:01 am to Napoleon
If it was pilot suicide, only thing to stop that is to stop commercial flying in all. Have to trust somebody right? The thing with that they need to find what files were deleted, if any, and also figure out why would he choose to take the lives of 238 others with him to hell?
I think it was suicide. I doubt anything that would knock out the pilots could allow the plane to continuously fly like that. If it was terror... well who the hell knows.
Something I don't understand, but at the same time I'm not an expert by any means. What are they expecting get out off spotting objects but not retrieving them? Planes see them but can't get them and rely on ships to get them which could take God knows how long, then turns out it isn't there anymore or they just don't see it. Any reason planes were taken instead of choppers where they could've lowed someone down to retrieve them? Can they not do that with planes? Excuse my ignorance
I think it was suicide. I doubt anything that would knock out the pilots could allow the plane to continuously fly like that. If it was terror... well who the hell knows.
Something I don't understand, but at the same time I'm not an expert by any means. What are they expecting get out off spotting objects but not retrieving them? Planes see them but can't get them and rely on ships to get them which could take God knows how long, then turns out it isn't there anymore or they just don't see it. Any reason planes were taken instead of choppers where they could've lowed someone down to retrieve them? Can they not do that with planes? Excuse my ignorance
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:01 am to MrBiriwa
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When merican Airlines flight 191 crashed after takeoff from Chicago in 1979, every DC 10 in the country was grounded until further notice
and that was found to be an error on the part of maintenance, as the engine fell off in flight and caused one wing to stall.
Sad. Like 270 people died in that.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:02 am to Camo Tiger 337
All kind of retard in that post. How old are you? Just curious
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:03 am
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:02 am to LSU=Champions
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Y'all remember in LOST that Widmore placed a fake Oceanic 815 in the bottom of the Pacific to get the media to STFU...
Just FYI. Great show.
TV spoilers on The OT?
c'mon.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:02 am to GetCocky11
The pressure could eventually crush a human body if too deep in waters!
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:03 am to biscuitsngravy
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zombie flight.
I've been on the zombie angle from the jump. Welcome to the group.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:05 am to oilmanNO
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All kind of retard in that post. How old are you? Just curious
GTFO, he is contributing more to the discussion than you are.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:05 am to Camo Tiger 337
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I'm not an expert by any means.
Coulda fooled me.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:05 am to Pax Regis
co-worker just came into the office:
him: "hey they found the missing plane"
me: "no they didn't"
him: "oh well, that's what the radio said"
him: "hey they found the missing plane"
me: "no they didn't"
him: "oh well, that's what the radio said"
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:06 am to Napoleon
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the engine fell off in flight
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:06 am to Camo Tiger 337
I think the pilot landed that plane somewhere. I don't think the simulator files will be recovered so they'll never know where he put it down. It's just too damn sketchy for random mechanical issue to have brought this plane down. I also don't think you'd commit suicide of this proportion and not give a reason or cause some sort of terror.
'They' have the plane, and I don't doubt that it will be covered up by finding sort of wreckage.
My theory has a few holes in it. I think they turned around again, basically the first turn back was an evasive maneuver.
'They' have the plane, and I don't doubt that it will be covered up by finding sort of wreckage.
My theory has a few holes in it. I think they turned around again, basically the first turn back was an evasive maneuver.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:07 am to Camo Tiger 337
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Planes see them but can't get them and rely on ships to get them which could take God knows how long, then turns out it isn't there anymore or they just don't see it. Any reason planes were taken instead of choppers where they could've lowed someone down to retrieve them? Can they not do that with planes?
Good point Camo Tiger 337. And there may be some choppers on hand. I don't know.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:09 am to Camo Tiger 337
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If it was pilot suicide, only thing to stop that is to stop commercial flying in all. Have to trust somebody right? The thing with that they need to find what files were deleted, if any, and also figure out why would he choose to take the lives of 238 others with him to hell?
If the PIC did kill everyone intentionally I doubt anything on the simulator would help out.
Unless there were a lot of low level VFR flights to the South Indian Ocean.
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Something I don't understand, but at the same time I'm not an expert by any means. What are they expecting get out off spotting objects but not retrieving them? Planes see them but can't get them and rely on ships to get them which could take God knows how long, then turns out it isn't there anymore or they just don't see it. Any reason planes were taken instead of choppers where they could've lowed someone down to retrieve them? Can they not do that with planes? Excuse my ignorance
They can't get helos out there as it's so far from land. Maybe an amphibious ship is on it's way with helicopters. I would assume that's the case.
It would take a ship days to get there from Australia.
You can drop people out of planes, but can't retrieve them with planes (Skyhook no longer used DK fans)
So helicopters weren't used because they just can't make it that far.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:09 am to Porky
I just think it's funny that people are now saying the plane has been found. that's what the media is saying.
yet, no plane.
yet, no plane.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:09 am to sugar71
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Let's get back to discussing Flight 370 & the 240 lives lost please?
Fine...here's the Readers Digest Version:
In my afore mentioned position I helped evaluate the global airspace infrastructure for Y2K as part of an IATA/ATA working group. Now that was over a decade ago, but at the time, we took one look and concluded (correctly) that the ATC "equipment" was so poor that there was no possible impact. It is possible that they have created an entire locked down NAS structure in that time,however unlikely. It is my estimation that in the middle of the night, your average Pakistani would not think twice about seeing a Malaysian Airlines jet land even if they saw it.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:09 am to Porky
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Good point Camo Tiger 337.
It was a question. Not all understand the fuel ranges of helicopters and relative speed vs that of a plane.
People want to just laugh at others on here too much. The Airforce guy laughed at me when I said Australia narrowed the search field down to a small area a week ago. I have been reading South Asian and Australian sites for info.
Yes I did go with the shoot down and later pilot hijacking theories, because they made sense. The zombie plane to me is plausible, but crazy at the same time.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:14 am to Napoleon
Thought I read an article that said there was a Russian or a Chinese ship en route that could carry helicopters because of the flat deck. I'm guessing that ship never made it..
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:17 am to Camo Tiger 337
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The U.S. Pacific command said it was sending a black box locator in case a debris field is located. The Towed Pinger Locator, which is pulled behind a vessel at slow speeds, has highly sensitive listening capability so that if the wreck site is located, it can hear the black box pinger down to a depth of about 20,000 feet, Cmdr. Chris Budde, a U.S. Seventh Fleet operations officer, said in a statement.
LINK
Chinese, American and Australian ships in route, each of which will have helos. So no you aren't that far off.
An Icebreaker will be on the scene tomorrow.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:17 am to Napoleon
Even so, they're going to lower a human into those waters to retrieve a piece of debris, let's say, a 74ft wing?
I get what you're saying. He contributed, but it seems like some people's logical thoughts go out the window occasionally in this thread.
Welcome to the OT.
I get what you're saying. He contributed, but it seems like some people's logical thoughts go out the window occasionally in this thread.
Welcome to the OT.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:20 am to Napoleon
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guess it could be an accident in the plane. But reports were it flew low. You don't need oxygen or cabin pressurization to live below 20k feet. The rule is 14,000 but anything below 20k and you can breathe.
So The hypoxia thing is out the window if it flew low.
Honest answer no one in this thread knows, and we are all guessing.
According to articles I have read(I'll try to link 1 if you wish) that the target altitude upon rapid decompression is 10,000 feet for everyone to breath without those temporary masks.
Makes sense that the plane turned & descended to at least 12,000 feet as the pilot probably programmed that altitude in.
Maybe he had already programmed that turn & descent into the computer & the plane kept flying?
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