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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:19 pm to N2cars
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:19 pm to N2cars
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One pilot killed the other pilot, locked the door, killed himself. Plane flew until it ran out of fuel and then crashed into ocean/jungle
Why go through all of the trouble to disable all the radio, electronics, etc.....Turn the plane and fly for an additional 7 hours just to kill yourself???
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:19 pm to AlexLSU
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The argument "if it was a suicide mission, why fly the plane for hours just to crash it into nothing?" makes some sense, but it's also relying on the assumption that a pilot willing to kill 200+ people is operating under any sort of logical parameters. If you're going to take over a plane and shut off all of its communication, there's no "logical" finish to the mission, because stealing a fricking plane and killing hundreds of people is completely illogical in the first place.
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:24 pm to Jizzamo311
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Why go through all of the trouble to disable all the radio, electronics, etc.....Turn the plane and fly for an additional 7 hours just to kill yourself???
This entire situation is fricking ridiculous and void of the same logic and common sense that you and I operate under every day of our lives. You can't sit here and say "well, they stole this plane with hundreds of people on it, so clearly they're going to execute a diabolical plan." Isn't turning off communication and crashing a plane with 200+ people into the ocean bad enough?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:24 pm to Napoleon
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So fly across China?
fly the intended route uintil time to veer off is what i said...not entering chinese airspace.
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again you are letting your preconceived opinions get in the way of factual possibilities.
trailing another airliner into asia to avoid radar detection is a factual possibility?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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fly the intended route uintil time to veer off is what i said...not entering chinese airspace.
well they were about to enter HCM city air traffic control and instead at the handoff went dark and over airspace the pilot knew best.
then went completely dark.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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trailing another airliner into asia to avoid radar detection is a factual possibility?
yes, yes it is.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:29 pm to Topwater Trout
so fly to eastern China, hang a huge left and fly over the entire country to get to where the mountains are?
why not just follow a jet that has a predetermined flight path that you had known about for months, possibly flew the very same route during your career before and then practice for the this very mission on your home simulator
why not just follow a jet that has a predetermined flight path that you had known about for months, possibly flew the very same route during your career before and then practice for the this very mission on your home simulator
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:30 pm to Napoleon
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well they were about to enter HCM city air traffic control and instead at the handoff went dark and over airspace the pilot knew best. then went completely dark.
do you not think at the moment the plane went dark that Vietnam or Malayasia should have questioned what happened to the flight?
Vietnam: Hey malaysia we were waiting for your plane to enter our airspace but they went off line
Malaysia: they said allright, good night....its your problem now.
I still don't get how 2 countries weren't immediately on alert for a missing 777.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:33 pm to N2cars
quote:well this makes me even more uncomfortable about flying.
One pilot killed the other pilot, locked the door, killed himself.
Plane flew until it ran out of fuel and then crashed into ocean/jungle.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:33 pm to ninthward
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why not just follow a jet that has a predetermined flight path that you had known about for months, possibly flew the very same route during your career before and then practice for the this very mission on your home simulator
so find the flights that were out there that night...this is what i want to see.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:34 pm to Napoleon
Topwater Trout,
I'm in the same camp as you regarding the outcome of the flight, and disregarding alternatives is fine, but some of the alternatives stated in this thread are plausible and based in facts, and to state otherwise is disingenuous.
Crashed into Indian Ocean: Likely
Flew into Asia in shadow of another plane: Plausible
Aliens: Ridiculous
I'm in the same camp as you regarding the outcome of the flight, and disregarding alternatives is fine, but some of the alternatives stated in this thread are plausible and based in facts, and to state otherwise is disingenuous.
Crashed into Indian Ocean: Likely
Flew into Asia in shadow of another plane: Plausible
Aliens: Ridiculous
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:36 pm to Topwater Trout
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so find the flights that were out there that night...this is what i want to see.
Napoleon has done a good job of this in the last few pages. Take a look yourself.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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trailing another airliner into asia to avoid radar detection is a factual possibility?
Coming from a radar operator, you would see both blips on the radar screen. It's highly unlikely for two aircraft to be so close you only get one contact. Not happening.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:39 pm to slackster
I wonder if pat power will put up odds on where the plane is anytime soon. You would get a lot of action I think.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:39 pm to slackster
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Flew into Asia in shadow of another plane: Plausible
sorry i just don't think it is...i am not being disingeneous either I just don't feel this was the brilliant terrorism plot some people are so eager to believe. Plausible in a movie but not real life.
It is the only counter to logic. Logic being how in the hell did it avoid all those radars in asia if it didn't avoid malaysia's. Oh i know it piggy backed another airliner...making the plot even more brilliant
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:40 pm to JAXTiger16
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JAXTiger16
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:41 pm to Topwater Trout
Is anything at this point logical or unplausible? I don't think so.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:44 pm to Wtodd
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Is anything at this point logical or unplausible? I don't think so.
Exactly, you can't really dismiss anything until this plane is found.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:44 pm to Topwater Trout
Honestly, it would probably draw more attention to them. If I saw two contacts that close on the same heading I would wonder what the hell is going on. I don't think the pilots could or would even try to pull off the shadow theory.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:44 pm to Wtodd
logical- crashed in a huge arse ocean
unplausible- landed in asia
Think about the people who say "well if it crashed in the ocean they should have found it by now"....they have no clue just how big that ocean is. Ships aren't just crossing every part of the ocean.
unplausible- landed in asia
Think about the people who say "well if it crashed in the ocean they should have found it by now"....they have no clue just how big that ocean is. Ships aren't just crossing every part of the ocean.
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