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NYT misrepresents data to claim a big, scary spike in Covid-19 Hospitalizations

Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:02 pm
In a nutshell, over a dozen states were not reporting hospitalizations until recently. So the NYT has been claiming that the increased hospitalizations is indicative of a big, scary resurgence when it's actually caused by increased visibility/reporting on data on hospitalizations.

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The New York Times on Wednesday reported that coronavirus hospitalizations have risen dramatically and are nearing their April peak. The Times, however, either overlooked or ignored a serious factor: Way more states are reporting hospitalizations now than were reporting at the April peak.

“The rising hospitalizations reflect the scale of serious illnesses,” the Times said. “Nearly as many people are in hospitals now as there were when New York was at its worst.” The latter part is true. The Times notes that as of July 22, 59,628 people were being treated in hospitals for the Wuhan virus. During the peak of the outbreak on April 15, when New York was the nation’s hot spot, 59,940 were hospitalized for the virus. The data comes from The Atlantic’s COVID Tracking Project, which collects virus data daily from all 50 states, plus Washington, D.C., and five U.S. territories.


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The problem is that the article’s own source reveals that the spike in numbers can be partly attributed to the fact that Florida, the country’s third-most-populous state, began reporting hospitalizations only two weeks ago, meaning sheer hospitalization numbers are not the clearest measure of the virus’s seriousness— at least not the way the Times compares them.


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A deeper dive into the data reveals Florida wasn’t the only addition to hospitalization counts. On April 15, a total of 37 states and territories were included in the near-60,000 hospitalization figure, with New York bearing the brunt of the caseload. July’s so-called spike includes data from 52 states and territories.


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The New York Times even mentions Florida’s late data reporting further down in the article, but compares the apples-and-oranges data sets, mischaracterizing July’s numbers as a “surge” and a “spike.”



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Comparing total hospitalizations, tracked with the gray line below, shows an apparent spike, but it’s illusory. More and more states, a quantity depicted by the orange line, have begun reporting hospitalizations, which largely flattens the alleged spike. The blue line below tracks the hospitalizations in only the states and territories included in both the April 15 peak count and the July 22 count, a more than 30 percent decrease in the number of people hospitalized for the Wuhan virus in those states. States included in the July data but absent from the April data include Florida, Georgia, Maryland, and South Carolina, among many others.




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Unlike the New York nursing home massacre, enabled by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, which largely drove the April coronavirus death toll, younger people have driven the latest increase in COVID-19 hospitalizations, the New York Times reveals.



And what did a lot of younger people do in the larger cities after the George Floyd murder?

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These blunders from the New York Times follow another journalistic failure last week, when the paper of record hyped a South Korean study, saying it proves children ages 10 to 19 are highly infectious. The report actually revealed children are hardly spreading the coronavirus, if at all.


They've done the same thing with the increase in Covid-19 patients correlating with an increased screening and testing effort. They claim that the virus spreading when, most likely, we are stepping up testing and screening efforts to find it.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24279 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:04 pm to
Hmmm I wonder if this could have anything to do with an election year?

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112616 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:06 pm to
We must shut down for two weeks to hide from a highly transmittable virus with no vaccine, herd immunity, or solution.

- Democrats
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25343 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:08 pm to
A lot of us predicted that with increased testing, the media would misrepresent the data and claim that the pandemic is getting more severe. That absolutely turned out true.

For hospitalizations.....Not all states reported hospitalizations early on. When they finally did, more hospitalizations materialized nationwide - not necessarily because things are getting worse, but because new states are reporting all of their hospitalizations finally after not doing so since the beginning of this.

I didn't really think of this particular angle, but it doesn't shock me that the NYT misrepresented data to push an agenda.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:21 pm to
What a weird hill this author has chosen to die on.

Is her argument that there is no spike, and we've seen a sustained level of hospitalizations nationwide, not born out by individual states' data, and thus...yay?

Or maybe that Florida is mismanaging the pandemic so acutely that its addition showed the true scale of the disaster for the first time, but let's not attribute that to anything their governor has done?

Oh, right. It's just more unfounded misleading propaganda from a site that doesn't do anything but that.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39451 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:24 pm to
This makes my blood boil
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25343 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Is her argument that there is no spike, and we've seen a sustained level of hospitalizations nationwide, not born out by individual states' data, and thus...yay?



I think they are just pointing out that the NYT reported new data from states that hand not reported hospitalizations before as evidence of a spike in hospitalizations.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15551 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:28 pm to
To some states its all about trying to milk that federal funding.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20267 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:29 pm to
NYT asshoe
Posted by kingfish225
Member since Dec 2013
520 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:32 pm to
Man some of you are truly pathetic. This virus has really revealed how many stupid people we really have and how many on the “right” truly make everything a political issue down to masks and a virus. Really sad
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:33 pm to
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I think they are just pointing out that the NYT reported new data from states that hand not reported hospitalizations before as evidence of a spike in hospitalizations.



Did some digging, and she's not even right about that.

Georgia started reporting hospitalizations on 3/25.
South Carolina started reporting hospitalizations on 3/25.
Maryland started reporting hospitalizations on 3/26.
Florida has counts reaching back to 3/11 - not in the last 2 weeks as the author says.

Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:33 pm to
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This virus has really revealed how many stupid people we really have and how many on the “right”


I'm sorry, are you arguing that the NYT is the "right"? Because they are definitely misrepresenting data for political reasons.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112616 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:37 pm to
Do you think Florida should shut down?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:39 pm to
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Do you think Florida should shut down?


I'm not familiar with Florida's plans or various levels, so your definition of shut down, my definition of it, and their definition of it may differ.

I do think that based on the data they are reporting they are overdue for a mask mandate, limiting in-person gatherings, and as much of a shelter-in-place for certain regions (see: Miami-Dade) as they are able to do.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112616 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 2:04 pm to
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Shelter in place


Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7339 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 2:09 pm to
Hard to believe they would do that...
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 2:11 pm to
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NYT misrepresents data


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