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re: NYT has a feature up about the Louisiana coast. Pretty interesting.

Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:15 pm to
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There is also ongoing research at LSU showing how wetland plants are highly dependent upon the microbial community of the marsh. These are some of the reasons that previous restoration efforts have failed.


At the same time, though, the UAE are building artificial islands shaped like palm trees and the Dutch are adding massive quantities of new land to their sinking country. Clearly, there are people out there who know how to do it.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:16 pm to
Refer to my last post.
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:18 pm to
Building dry land is different than marshes. We also have different geological and hydrological processes at play.

A more comparable system is the Yellow River in China.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:19 pm to
The Yellow is extremely interesting. Amount of sediment is staggering.
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:23 pm to
Our research group works with scientists there to compare and contrast the two systems. It’s incredible the amount of money China is dumping into scientific research for Environmental issues.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:27 pm to
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At the same time, though, the UAE are building artificial islands shaped like palm trees and the Dutch are adding massive quantities of new land to their sinking country. Clearly, there are people out there who know how to do it.



Small amounts of land and at great cost. The technology is there, but from what I can understand it isn’t remotely feasible economically for an area as large as ours.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:33 pm to
To see a diversion that "didn't work" (or so the critics said) for the initial phase, and has now built a good amount of land, look up West Bay just south of Venice. During the 11 flood, the "subaerial" land broke water surface, after the diversion had been depositing sediment for years beforehand.

It's basically right across from Pilot town on the west side of MS river
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:33 pm to
The feds could just scoop up land from a shithole state like Delaware and sprinkle it over the marsh.
Posted by LSU7096
Houston
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:35 pm to
That is one part off the equation. I worked in the marsh, there id's constant dredging to maintain access to oil facilities. The dredging is not managed in regards to coastal erosion. Time for oil companies to pay for restoring the land they ruined or seizure of their assets, P&A funds, ans civil penalties.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:39 pm to
The government has permitted these activities for years. Can't put it all on the companies.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:48 pm to
The solution is going take political will from the whole of Louisiana. Legislation will need to be rammed through the goverment with politicans knowing they will lose their seat with doing so. This coupled with federal backing might save costal Louisiana. If we want to save New Orleans and our culture of south louisiana we need to save our coast
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:49 pm to
Exactly, dropping the hammer on them is not going to do anything. However, coming up with a joint effort plan is a great start.

Most O/G companies are looking for any sort of green agenda that will garner positive feedback. Get commitments from the big boys to donate certain amounts to research and restoration efforts (They already do this to an extent). Give them tax benefits or other incentives for restoration of each canal reaching a well or facility that has been abandoned or is no longer profitable.

Creating a master plan that also incorporates reconfiguring the levee system all while partnering with these companies could consolidate many of these efforts instead of throwing shite at a wall to see what sticks.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:51 pm to
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Can't put it all on the companies.




I agree, lets have a jury trial and everyone put on their evidence on and let the jury decide how to apportion fault.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:02 pm to
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The solution is going take political will from the whole of Louisiana. Legislation will need to be rammed through the goverment with politicans knowing they will lose their seat with doing so. This coupled with federal backing might save costal Louisiana. If we want to save New Orleans and our culture of south louisiana we need to save our coast
some of our small town coastal yokels need to accept that their dots on the map will be gone soon. Everything based in Boothville could be based in Belle Chasse. You don't have too much now outside of levee protection in the NOLA area.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I remember in elementary school in the 1980s hearing that Houma and Morgan City would be gone by 2000.


Calling BS on this. I worked closely on LA coastal issues starting in the 80s. I have long wanted leaders to publicly "draw a lime in the sand" and admit we can't save it all. However, no model ever predicted that Houma and MC would be gone by 2000.
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