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re: Nothing will change until we have an honest discussion in this country

Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:51 pm to
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So if they took the policeman... And the other 3, and strung them up at 6 a.m. tomorrow, would the protests stop?


That’s certainly not what they want. Continue to move the goalposts, though.

Occam’s razor. Look into it.

Black people simply want the police to stop treating them differently. That’s it. If you can’t empathize, then it’s because you don’t understand, or choose not to try.



Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:59 pm to
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Black people simply want the police to stop treating them differently.


They get treated differently because they act differently. They should quit committing a disproportionate % of the crimes.

Occam's razor. YOU look into it.

NOW, WHY do they do that?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:10 pm to
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They get treated differently because they act differently.


That’s just not true. And there are numerous examples of innocent black people being killed while not acting “differently”.

Congrats, you’re a bad Christian.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:13 pm to
Have you seen all the McDonalds and Waffle House gang fight videos?

Good luck with whatever you wanna do, but it ain't gonna work.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:17 pm to
In 2016 I found the below post with 2015 data showing blacks dying during arrests was 0.003% points lower than total deaths during arrests per country. I didn't save or can't yet quickly find in same place similar summaries I might have saved for 2016-2019 with my phone. I copied it from an email, so the percentage lines on arrests along with a few other items aren't formatting correctly in mobile site.

In 2016 leftists and most of the media were only cherry picking numbers to justify protesters actions as well as continue the false narrative during election.

Have police actions actually gotten worse toward blacks starting in 2016 through today or do they just continue to ignore the problem crosses races and making it about blacks only is both political and victimhood?

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Using FBI arrest database and Washington Post police shootings database in 2015 there were 991 people were killed by cops and there were 8,248,709 total arrests of all races - 120 killed per 1 million arrests or 0.012%. Out of these totals there were 258 black people killed by cops and 2,197,140 arrests of black people - 117 killed per 1 million arrests or 0.0117% or a 0.0003 % point decrease from total rate killed per arrest for all races combined. 3 less black people killed per million arrests than national rate does not equate at all to a systemic killing of blacks by police.

Another comparison explaining why the black % of those killed by police was twice their % of the national population is that blacks made up 26.6% of the total number of people arrested/charged which was also twice their % of total national population.

Both are still not the best population to use for nationwide comparison as things like local population %s and resisting arrest numbers need to be factored in, but they are better than just total population. Truly each case needs to be taken individually.



Charges % of Blacks Murder/manslaught. 51.1
Rape3 28.2
Robbery 53.5
Aggravated assault 32.1
Burglary 29.5
Larceny-theft 27.4
Motor vehicle theft 29.4
Other assaults 30.8
Forgery. 33.0
Fraud 31.0
Embezzlement 36.8
Stolen property. 32.0
Vandalism 27.2
Weapons; 40.0
Prostitution;vice 39.9
Drug violations 27.0
Gambling 56.4
Offenses - family 29.8
Disorderly conduct 31.0
Vagrancy 26.7
All other(not traffic) 28.0
Suspicion 27.4
Curfew/loitering 44.7

% of All Arrests 26.6

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 10:22 pm
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:25 pm to
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Congrats, you’re a bad Christian.


I'm like every Christian, not perfect. I have my faults.

You're a cherry picker. Don't address sentences or paragraphs. Paint with a broad brush.

It's an economic problem and you know it, yet you don't address that.

I should retract my statement about your intelligence. You're not very bright.

Why aren't Tiger Woods, Steph Curry, Floyd Mayweather, and many other hundreds of wealthy black celebs out there throwing bricks? Do they not care? How about Eddie Murphy, Terrell Owens, Chris Rock? Too busy?

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72157 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:34 pm to
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Why aren't Tiger Woods, Steph Curry, Floyd Mayweather, and many other hundreds of wealthy black celebs out there throwing bricks? Do they not care? How about Eddie Murphy, Terrell Owens, Chris Rock? Too busy?


And you speak on my intelligence

I suggest you google most of these names with “George Floyd” as well.

Spoiler, you’re gonna be disappointed.

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I'm like every Christian, not perfect. I have my faults.


At least you are mildly aware of your hypocrisy.

I’ll be up front. I feel sorry for people like you. I’ll pray for you tonight.
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