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re: Norm Macdonald dunks on Black Science Man
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I've never read anything from Lewis
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:28 am to Bustedsack
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 11:31 am
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:31 am to tiggerthetooth
I’m going to see Norm do stand-up tomorrow in Denver. I’m pretty ecstatic about it. Second favorite comedian only behind Bill Burr.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:39 am to heypaul
The world needs more Norm MacDonald
Posted on 4/11/19 at 12:22 pm to OMLandshark
Heckle Norm and record it, post the results.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 12:39 pm to whitetiger1234
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Norm is a fricking American hero.
Canuck
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:29 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Cool. Let's discuss some of those. I've never read anything from Lewis and thought it was something eye-opening or especially impactful. I'm open to having my mind changed, though.
Hey sorry for the late replay - here’s the quote that I’ve tried (and failed so so much) to live by over the past couple of years. It’s a mindset that, if people could maintain, would be revolutionary:
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There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub and exploit - immortal horrors or everlasting splendors. This does not mean that we are to be perpetually solemn. We must play. But our merriment must be of that kind (and it is, in fact, the merriest kind) which exists between people who have, from the outset, taken each other seriously - no flippancy, no superiority, no presumption.
C. S. Lewis, The Weight of Glory
Also the Scewtape Letters... just needs to be read as a whole. But if you want quotes (this is a senior demon to a trainee):
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Let him begin by treating the Patriotism or the Pacifism as a part of his religion. Then let him, under the influence of partisan spirit, come to regard it as the most important part. Then quietly and gradually nurse him on to the stage at which the religion becomes merely part of the “cause”, in which Christianity is valued chiefly because of the excellent arguments it can produce in favour of the British war-effort or of Pacifism … Once you have made the World an end, and faith a means, you have almost won your man, and it makes very little difference what kind of worldly end he is pursuing. Provided that meetings, pamphlets, policies, movements, causes, and crusades, matter more to him than prayers and sacraments and charity, he is ours – and the more “religious” (on those terms) the more securely ours.”
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:53 pm to Snipe
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You have low standards
You probably don’t get his jokes. Dane Cook is probably more your type.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:11 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Dude you are having a conversation with an internet moron who is saying that C S Lewis wasn’t profound.
C S Lewis, who was profound enough to be a professor of Lit at both Oxford and Cambridge who’s sold over 30 million copies of his books and whose brought up as much now as when he was last alive over 50 years ago. Mere Christianity is only taught at practically every single Protestant seminary in the world.
But this internet dude doesn’t see anything profound.
I’m sure thousands of people will also visit Displaced Buckeyes grave after he’s been dead 50 years.
Youve already won the argument. Kneel bro. Just run out the clock.
C S Lewis, who was profound enough to be a professor of Lit at both Oxford and Cambridge who’s sold over 30 million copies of his books and whose brought up as much now as when he was last alive over 50 years ago. Mere Christianity is only taught at practically every single Protestant seminary in the world.
But this internet dude doesn’t see anything profound.
I’m sure thousands of people will also visit Displaced Buckeyes grave after he’s been dead 50 years.
Youve already won the argument. Kneel bro. Just run out the clock.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 4/13/19 at 4:50 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Youve already won the argument. Kneel bro. Just run out the clock.
Haha thanks but he did genuinely ask and I see it more as sharing something I find thought-provoking
Posted on 4/13/19 at 6:23 am to extremetigerfanatic
This. When I read some dude say that C.S. Lewis wasn't profound I almost spit out my coffee.
Not profound? Orekay.
Not profound? Orekay.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 6:26 am to eScott
I dislike buckeye as mush as most, but that isn’t what he said and you purposefully misquoted him
Posted on 4/13/19 at 7:43 am to rintintin
To go along with your very good argument:
Nature is finely tuned: she doesn't get it very wrong very often, but when she does she quickly rights the ship. Oh sure, there's hiccups here and there, but those are a natural part of its gearing. Generally, it's a well-oiled, self-healing machine.
Well then, if humans have our perfect dear old mother nature up against the ropes beating her arse down (which we do to a certain degree) then it begs the rhetorical questions of, "Well who's fault is that? Why did she allow it?"
Since mother nature is so perfectly and finely tuned, balancing out her natural selection across the entire land and seascape so that no one single species gets too uppity (all being objective facts)- then how could she of fricked up so badly, so severely, just this once?
How in this world did the arbitrator of existence get it so wrong with a bed chitting of epic proportions just this once with you and I? Why didn't she nip us in the bud when she witnessed us getting all high and mighty with our opposable thumbs, our wheels and our tool making skills?
Perhaps she couldn't (and most certainly, she didn't), or perhaps "she" doesn't hold the nuts like we think she does- or maybe she doesn't even really exist at all, or not like we think she does. Maybe this is all meant to be: We are the gatekeepers, the stewards, of this planet; meant to utilize its resources within.
One thing is for sure, she's not coming back from this "fight" to whip us; this train is too big and rolling too fast. We can wipe ourselves out (hell we can destroy this planet today if we'd like) but we are here to stay or go on our own accord: If we irreversibly poison our oceans that's on us, and irreversible means just that. If we vaporize everything as we lob nuclear warheads at each other, it's on us. We are the apex predator with the ability to cannibalize ourselves as our own worst enemy, and mother nature can't do a damned thing about it.
Nature is finely tuned: she doesn't get it very wrong very often, but when she does she quickly rights the ship. Oh sure, there's hiccups here and there, but those are a natural part of its gearing. Generally, it's a well-oiled, self-healing machine.
Well then, if humans have our perfect dear old mother nature up against the ropes beating her arse down (which we do to a certain degree) then it begs the rhetorical questions of, "Well who's fault is that? Why did she allow it?"
Since mother nature is so perfectly and finely tuned, balancing out her natural selection across the entire land and seascape so that no one single species gets too uppity (all being objective facts)- then how could she of fricked up so badly, so severely, just this once?
How in this world did the arbitrator of existence get it so wrong with a bed chitting of epic proportions just this once with you and I? Why didn't she nip us in the bud when she witnessed us getting all high and mighty with our opposable thumbs, our wheels and our tool making skills?
Perhaps she couldn't (and most certainly, she didn't), or perhaps "she" doesn't hold the nuts like we think she does- or maybe she doesn't even really exist at all, or not like we think she does. Maybe this is all meant to be: We are the gatekeepers, the stewards, of this planet; meant to utilize its resources within.
One thing is for sure, she's not coming back from this "fight" to whip us; this train is too big and rolling too fast. We can wipe ourselves out (hell we can destroy this planet today if we'd like) but we are here to stay or go on our own accord: If we irreversibly poison our oceans that's on us, and irreversible means just that. If we vaporize everything as we lob nuclear warheads at each other, it's on us. We are the apex predator with the ability to cannibalize ourselves as our own worst enemy, and mother nature can't do a damned thing about it.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 7:49 am to tiggerthetooth
That's really a simpleton quote by Tyson. He really demeans his audience.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 7:57 am to Oilfieldbiology
Agreed. His logic is not even that, but he was misquoted.
That said, the guy has no interest in being swayed. Couple that with the fact that you can't reason with a fool: No matter his beliefs, if the man is going to sit there and state that C.S. Lewis was "meh" with what he brought to humanity's table, and do it with a straight face, then he is irredeemable in respect to being worthy of debate.
C.S. might be "meh" to him, but to extrapolate that out to mean that he wasn't profound at all, or in any way, or to any one person is just dumb or is just a troll, and both are equal and synonymous attributes of a foolish person.
That said, the guy has no interest in being swayed. Couple that with the fact that you can't reason with a fool: No matter his beliefs, if the man is going to sit there and state that C.S. Lewis was "meh" with what he brought to humanity's table, and do it with a straight face, then he is irredeemable in respect to being worthy of debate.
C.S. might be "meh" to him, but to extrapolate that out to mean that he wasn't profound at all, or in any way, or to any one person is just dumb or is just a troll, and both are equal and synonymous attributes of a foolish person.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 8:11 am to Clark W Griswold
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The whole Clinton is a murderer bit on The View was hilarious.
That the cackling bitches yucked it up about the IRS auditing Norm for making fun of the Clintons is very telling.
The democrats wouldn’t possibly stoop so low as to weaponize the IRS!
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