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re: NOLA council votes to remove the Monuments- Discussion thread

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Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:48 am to
I wish someone would go up there and read this:

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But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the black community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.




And sit down.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 11:49 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:49 am to
how would you love to be a white guy and follow that?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20416 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:49 am to
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If you give mlk a statue, give one to vitter as well. Same morals involved.


Might as well get rid of all the JFK stuff then too.

We need to be like the Europeans in this aspect, separate personal behavior from their public accomplishments.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35471 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:49 am to
Great thing about Mr. Smith is that he's allowed to stay in the meeting and not get arrested. Tell me more about racism.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3864 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:50 am to
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glad im tuned in!



Yep screw work> I had to tune in.. I'm watching now.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:50 am to
Those fricking idiots want everything torn down
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:50 am to
last dude was good, except for his lisp
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:50 am to
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how would you love to be a white guy and follow that?


Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23639 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:51 am to
Holy shite this just got serious
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:51 am to
This bitch is lying
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35471 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:51 am to
n*&*a was just dropped on the mic.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:51 am to
White people need to start throwing up the Hitler salute or something... we need some hand jive up in this bitch.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20416 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
"THE NATION MUST ATONE!"
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3864 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
"Thousands murdered.. Thousands raped"..

But what sect of the population is doing that in this day and age?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
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n*&*a was just dropped on the mic.


What a coincidence that the n-word was typed on the receipt of a black militant female...
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
all the talk about hate, but the only hate I see is from the people wanting to tear down the city
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
Member since Jun 2015
4208 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Lee was not fighting against the abolition of slavery any more or less than Lincoln was


You can't be serious

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He faught against a growing and ever more controlling federal government that has continued to grow out of control since.


I'm trying to pinpoint exactly why you and others are arguing that slavery may have been wrong, but overstepping states' rights was worse and therefore it was the American government, not the CSA, who was out of line.

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That statue honors one of the greatest generals and strategists in American Histroy. It in no way honors slavery or anything like that. It is a reminder of the past and of the future. It shows us where we came from and where we are going.


Honestly whether the statue is up or not doesn't offend me either way. It is, however, quite easy to see that this is a figure that represented what the Confederates were, not what they became after slavery was abolished.

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You will not find an educated person today who wishes slavery still existed. And you will not find a historian who believes the south fought solely to keep slaves.


My entire argument centers around the view that a historical figure representing an army that fought to keep slavery relevant belongs in a museum, not in the city. No more than the rebel flag (Battle flag of N. Va) doesn't belong above a courthouse or state run facility.

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But by all means, don't allow truth, logic, and history to overcome your indoctrinated sense of narrative. Where do you stop?


I could very easily say the same of you. People here keep throwing out the tired argument that the war wasn't about slavery. Sure it was. "Your" narrative tells you to use revisionist history to brainwash yourself into believing that the civil war was about confederates who simply fought for the rights of their states against the oppressive U.S. government. It couldn't be further from reality.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
quote:

n*&*a was just dropped on the mic.
mayne, frick
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34835 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
She wants a statue of Al Copland... She loves Popeye's....
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:53 am to
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Holy shite this just got serious


Cliffs?
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