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re: New Science Proves We Are Getting Dumber, But Doesn't Know Why

Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:59 pm to
well I really meant more efficient with our knowledge

meaning we don't need to fill our brains with information that we don't need readily available all the time

we basically have a back up drive called the internet, which allows us to fill our brains with more important things...

...like what is the current trending hashtag on twitter
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:59 pm to
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Critical thinking has been destroyed


Correct
Posted by AlceeFortier
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:00 pm to
agree. social media and the web makes thinking rare
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:00 pm to
I assume you were trying to say we’ve traded knowledge for efficiency, no?
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:02 pm to
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meaning we don't need to fill our brains with information that we don't need readily available all the time


But you see... we’re cutting out the most important part. Understanding WHY. Understanding how to get the answer. Understanding why the universe is what it do.

We’re cutting out how to get to the answer and simply going right to the answer
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:04 pm to
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assume you were trying to say we’ve traded knowledge for efficiency, no?


We’ve traded our understanding of why and how to derive answers from data we are given for instant gratification of knowing the answer.

Instead of trying to figure out why x=1 or why the earth is round, we simply google and get the direct answer.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:05 pm to
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But you see... we’re cutting out the most important part. Understanding WHY. Understanding how to get the answer. Understanding why the universe is what it do.

We’re cutting out how to get to the answer and simply going right to the answer


on non essential things, sure

but I think the amount of scientific and technological advances that we have seen over the last few decades is evidence that we are still learning the "why" and "how" as well
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:11 pm to
That’s such a broad statement that really kind of romanticizes past generations. Obviously google is easier, but what’s the difference between that and looking something up in an encyclopedia? And how many people in the past were curious about something but never explored it because they didn’t have something as easy as google to use?

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Instead of trying to figure out why x=1 or why the earth is round, we simply google and get the direct answer.


Kids just learn google in school?

How many adults in the 80s were researching why the earth was round?
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:16 pm to
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on non essential things, sure


Practice makes perfect. The less you practice your cognitive functions and your ability to derive an answer from what you’re given and to think logically, the more that whittles away over time.

If we cut out cognitive processes and reasoning on small, less intricate things, how can we expect to be able to process and reason out larger and more complex problems?
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but I think the amount of scientific and technological advances that we have seen over the last few decades is evidence that we are still learning the "why" and "how" as well

Absolutely. And we use technology in ways to help cognitive function through learning software and apps.

It’s just too early to tell how it’s truly affected our ability to reason and be able to work out complex problems on our own.

I just feel on a personal level, that we put more emphasis on getting the right answer as quick as possible (let me google that real quick) over putting in the time and effort to come up with the answer. And I’m not so sure that’s a good thing
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Understanding why the universe is what it do

This homage right here is WAY underrated.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:26 pm to
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This homage right here is WAY underrated.


I was hoping someone would catch that
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:29 pm to
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How many adults in the 80s were researching why the earth was round?


Far less than there are now

Look. I’m not saying technology is evil. Or bad. Or horrible. It’s a wonderful thing and the internet has made our lives so much easier.

But, I do believe that it is hurting our cognitive functions and our ablility to come up with decisions based on what’s infront of us. (Once again... on avg. not talking about the NASA engineer)
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