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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:49 am to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:49 am to Pilot Tiger
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well then, i really fail to see the reason to melt so hard, other than being so blindly "AGAINST GOV'T, GRR"
because choice has been removed from the market and one side is using government as a cheat code
crony capitalism is bad
removing choice is bad
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:50 am to Salmon
quote:ok
there is a large difference between a bar choosing to go smoke free on their own and a bar being forced to go smoke free by the government
are you equally upset at other things that govt makes private businesses do then?
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:50 am to Pilot Tiger
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are you equally upset at other things that govt makes private businesses do then?
yes
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:50 am to ballscaster
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this debate has nothing to do with smoking and smokers I'm sorry you are too dumb to realize this
Deal with it. Outside.
Deal with what outside? No one arguing with you right now are smokers.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:51 am to rlebl39
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No one arguing with you right now are smokers.
yeah pretty sure this is true. i don't think any person arguing against the ban right now smokes
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Right. It's emotional, irrational people who can't wait to cry "cold dead hands" anytime the government does anything. "It scares me."
yeah pretty sure this is true. i don't think any person arguing against the ban right now smokes
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't necessarily look at this as an undercurrent of what's to come in the gov't versus private business debate
I see it more as ANOTHER step in a long series to steps to essentially completely eradicate tobacco smoke from the human population in America
As I said, I'm torn. But I'm not upset. I live in a city with a strict smoking ban
I see it more as ANOTHER step in a long series to steps to essentially completely eradicate tobacco smoke from the human population in America
As I said, I'm torn. But I'm not upset. I live in a city with a strict smoking ban
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:54 am to Pilot Tiger
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I see it more as ANOTHER step in a long series to steps to essentially completely eradicate tobacco smoke from the human population in America
right
which is pretty fricked up
people should be able to smoke freely on private property if they wish
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:54 am to Winkface
I don't smoke but smoking is legal and government shouldn't have the authority to ban smoking in PRIVATE businesses/property.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:55 am to ballscaster
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It's emotional, irrational people who can't wait to cry "cold dead hands" anytime the government does anything. "It scares me."
huh?
being for property rights is not emotional or irrational. property rights are the foundation for western society, even before other rights like the right to free speech and a free press. modern society begins by given man domain over his own property, and allowing free humans to make voluntary exchanges with each other using their property.
what people do with their property is of no concern to me, especially if it doesn't directly affect me
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:55 am to ballscaster
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Right. It's emotional, irrational people who can't wait to cry "cold dead hands" anytime the government does anything. "It scares me."
You are yet to make a non-emotional rational point in this thread.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:55 am to Salmon
quote:They are. They just have to follow certain rules if you want to serve food or beverages as a means of commerce on that private property. Not new.
people should be able to smoke freely on private property if they wish
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 8:56 am
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:56 am to rlebl39
quote:Deal with it.
You are yet to make a non-emotional rational point in this thread.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:56 am to Pilot Tiger
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I don't necessarily look at this as an undercurrent of what's to come in the gov't versus private business debate
why? it's an extension of that very argument
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I see it more as ANOTHER step in a long series to steps to essentially completely eradicate tobacco smoke from the human population in America
then just ban it like we do weed. this is an inefficient means to that end. that means added transaction costs and inefficient government
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:56 am to ballscaster
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Not new.
ah yes
the "there are already a bunch of other rules they have to abide by, so why get upset about more" argument
classic
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:57 am to Salmon
quote:....which they are still allowed to do...
people should be able to smoke freely on private property if they wish
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:57 am to Salmon
One day they came for the smokers and I did not care because I was not a smoker.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:57 am to Salmon
quote:Not the argument.
the "there are already a bunch of other rules they have to abide by, so why get upset about more" argument
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:58 am to Salmon
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ah yes
the "there are already a bunch of other rules they have to abide by, so why get upset about more" argument
classic
yeah
lots of people who support the illegality of marijuana and support bans on gay marriage up in here
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