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re: New Infrastructure Spending Plan likely means a NOLA -Baton Rouge passenger rail link
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:56 pm to TJG210
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:56 pm to TJG210
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it would be a 10-15 minute walk to the terminal.
15 whole minutes of walking!! Jesus, that is going to ruin everything.
Much rather sit behind the windshield for 90 minutes than be subjected to a 15 minute walk.
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:56 pm to fightin tigers
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You are reading one scenario that may or may not come true and shitting on the entire thing.
And you won't make it from Government Blvd to Union Station in less than 1:35 any morning of the week.
I pointed out two inconsistencies proponents here have posted.
I read further, two trips per day mean one trip from BR to NO and back and vice versa. Trip leaves at 7:00sm from Govt. and gets to the Dome at 8;35am. If returns at 5:00pm and gets back to BR at 6:45pm. And vice versa. One size fits all.
Why would I drive to Government Street unless it were to catch a train? It would be out if my way. Now for others it would likely be a lot closer and if the schedule fits their work schedule they might very well do it. How many is the key.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:58 pm to fightin tigers
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15 whole minutes of walking!! Jesus, that is going to ruin everything.
15 + 120 + 120 + 15
And I highly doubt many people with residences in downtown new Orleans work in baton rouge
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:58 pm to fightin tigers
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Some sort of Northshore train could maybe one day work
Thinking of the long term - too bad there can’t be some kind of high speed train loop connecting BR-NOLA-Hammond and maybe Houma/Thibodaux
It would be good for jobs and college kids - I’m not sure if it would really work
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:58 pm to doubleb
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Why would I drive to Government Street unless it were to catch a train? It would be out if my way.
That is why they decided to include other stations.
The study is just one scenario and people are getting hung up on only the traffic from Government street to Union Passenger and not the stops in between.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:00 pm to TJG210
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And I highly doubt many people with residences in downtown new Orleans work in baton rouge
Exactly, it’s a two way deal.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:01 pm to TJG210
The 240 minutes (which is excessive) in the middle are you sitting on a train dicking off on Tigerdroppings or whatever. You are still giving up at least 180 minutes, bare minimum, zero traffic, driving. Only those 180 minutes you are driving instead of sitting there doing whatever.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:01 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Thinking of the long term - too bad there can’t be some kind of high speed train loop connecting BR-NOLA-Hammond and maybe Houma/Thibodaux
High speed would nice, there are nowhere near enough people in the area for that to be feasible
I mean what in the world type scenarios are you people dreaming up? This state is shriveling up on the vine and your first concern is a fricking high speed train to ghost towns?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:02 pm to doubleb
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Exactly, it’s a two way deal.
Fwiw, the DOTD numbers show more people commute from New Orleans to BR than vise versa
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:04 pm to fightin tigers
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Fwiw, the DOTD numbers show more people commute from New Orleans to BR than vise versa
Are you dense? Unless they live in the downtown area it’s a much longer proposition.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:04 pm to TJG210
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High speed would nice, there are nowhere near enough people in the area for that to be feasible
High speed definitely not, a commuter from the northshore could maybe one day have promise.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:07 pm to fightin tigers
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The study is just one scenario and people are getting hung up on only the traffic from Government street to Union Passenger and not the stops in between.
It’s the scenario they are selling us.
I believe people in LaPlace would be more likely to ride a commuter train to NO and people in Ascendion ride a train to BR’s medical district. But the plan they are selling is way bigger than just that and why I ask where are the riders coming from.
Just look at the Government St station. Riders would arrive there at 8:35am. You still need to get to you job. If it’s close you could make it by 9:00am but what is near Government and S 14th? Not many. So why build a terminal there?
Medical district might fork better eith the terminal near the jobs.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:09 pm to TJG210
I get it man, you drive your truck the same 10 miles to work and back each day. This type of thing certainly isn't for you.
This thread is loaded with data that shows not only support for, but actual data. All you have returned with is your biased opinion of probably having never riden a train much less looked into what is being proposed. You see a train and get worked up because it isn't a wider road, even though widening roads proves to do nothing but increase sprawl and extend commute times.
I was definitely once like you, we need more roads and wider. Until actually spending lots of time listening to opinions on what could solve the problem.
This thread is loaded with data that shows not only support for, but actual data. All you have returned with is your biased opinion of probably having never riden a train much less looked into what is being proposed. You see a train and get worked up because it isn't a wider road, even though widening roads proves to do nothing but increase sprawl and extend commute times.
I was definitely once like you, we need more roads and wider. Until actually spending lots of time listening to opinions on what could solve the problem.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:09 pm to TJG210
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I mean what in the world type scenarios are you people dreaming up? This state is shriveling up on the vine and your first concern is a fricking high speed train to ghost towns?
I know 3 families that live in Hammond bc one parent works in BR, the other in NOLA. Plenty of ppl from NOLA/BR send their kids to Southeastern or Nicholls State. I have several friends that live on the West Bank of NOLA and work out of Houma. I have cousins in Houma that work in NOLA. When I started my masters degree at LSU, I commuted from NOLA. I wasn’t the only one.
Do I need to go on? I’m not saying that every single one of these people would take a train, but it’s not imaginary scenario.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:12 pm to doubleb
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but what is near Government and S 14th? Not many. So why build a terminal there?
They are a bit locked in by what is available railway wise. There would have to be secondary transportation (CATS in this case) to get them to where they need to be. CATS has been gutted because they provide shite service, and I won't defend them as not needing serious inprovement.
Same for NOLA, but RTA actually halfway has their shite together for secondary transportation points.
I have said several times in the thread that scheduling is a major issue that will have to be addressed.
Private transportation could also be secondary. Not only taxi service or rideshares, but building management often runs shuttles for movement around the CBD.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:19 pm to fightin tigers
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You see a train and get worked up because it isn't a wider road, even though widening roads proves to do nothing but increase sprawl and extend commute times.
There's funding for that too in this infrastructure bill. Up to $1 billion will go to Louisiana for roads and highways.
That's not to say there isn't a lot of bullshite in this bill that has nothing to do with infrastructure. It was crafted by a bunch of fricking losers on Capitol Hill, after all.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:20 pm to GreenRockTiger
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I know 3 families that live in Hammond bc one parent works in BR, the other in NOLA. Plenty of ppl from NOLA/BR send their kids to Southeastern or Nicholls State. I have several friends that live on the West Bank of NOLA and work out of Houma. I have cousins in Houma that work in NOLA. When I started my masters degree at LSU, I commuted from NOLA. I wasn’t the only one.
Do I need to go on? I’m not saying that every single one of these people would take a train, but it’s not imaginary scenario.
The train wouldn’t help folks in Houma or Hammond.
I’m sure there are people that would take a train, but the point is are there enough to justify the expense?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:20 pm to dewster
But what about helicopter pads?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:21 pm to fightin tigers
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But what about helicopter pads?
Not sure I'm following. But I think I read something about airports getting something out of it.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:21 pm to doubleb
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but the point is are there enough to justify the expense?
Close SUNO and UNO and force all the students to go to SLU with a trainpass
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