re: New 2023 Toyota Sequoia

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7 Toyota vehicles compared to essentially 1 GM vehicle Suburban/Yukon/Tahoe?

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The list is based on the % of registered vehicles with over 200,000 miles.

I bought a 4Runner because I got burned with a CVT equipped Subaru and wanted to find something that would last. One of the 4 GM products on the list outranks the 4Runner which is one of the OT's favorite SUVs. The Ford Expedition outranks the 4Runner as well.

Maybe you should stop watching Scotty Kilmer so much. The facts don't really support your pressing urge to regularly shite all over domestic full sized trucks and SUVs. Everything on that list is clearly a solid vehicle, and most are older designs from mainstream companies. I don't see any red flags either - none on there has a Jatco CVT, and only a handful have turbocharged engines. I see nothing on that list that's even remotely based on an Italian or British design. There are zero BMW's on that list, which checks out since most of them are mechanically totaled before 120,000 miles.

All of those vehicles could be purchased with the expectation that they will last at least 150,000-200,000 miles if maintained properly.

I suspect that leased vehicles, after returned, get sold second hand to buyers who are less likely to care for them than people who would have purchased them brand new. All of the cars most likely to hit 200,000 miles seem to attract to the type of driver who maintains their vehicles and are far more likely to buy instead of lease. That might explain why the Cadillac Escalade didn't make the cut but the similar GMC Yukon did. Or why the Lexus LX570 didn't make the cut but the similar Toyota Land Cruiser did. Those luxury brands are far more likely to be leased. And are also more likely to be used as livery fleet vehicles too.

What surprises me about the list is that full sized vans from Chevy, GMC, and Ford are not there. Those things seem to run badly longer than most cars run at all. Their designs haven't changed since the mid 1990s and I imagine the assembly workers can put them together with their eyes closed by now.

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That's enough for me to make a hard pass. I'm guessing this vehicle will run north of 60K if not more. That's a lot of money to spend to beta test a new engine.

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I'm sure the engines were thoroughly tested. Your bigger issue as a buyer is going to be availability because of these microprocessor shortages.

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Your 4runner (if you actually have one) will outlast ANY GM product. I don’t give a shat what that 1 list says. There are far more late 90’s early 2000’s 4Runners still on the road today than any Suburban/Yukon. I’m not saying their a bad vehicle at all, but a very overpriced one. Do you honestly think that a Tahoe could outlive a 4runner?!

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My opinions here are based on real data that I've posted. Not my gut feeling or some boomer youtuber that hasn't worked on a car in 10 years. The fact is that a greater % of Suburbans have over 200,000 miles than 4Runners. So there's a good chance that they could, depending on the buyer and their maintenance habits. Yeah.

While I won't say that a hot selling product is overpriced (clearly the market still has an appetite for it even at these inflated prices), but at this moment with supply chain shortages and labor issues.... they are all more expensive than I expected.

Yes, I have a 4Runner. And it is worth more now than what I paid for it almost a year ago. They are not coming of MSRP at all for any of them today. Volvo might be the only car dealership around me with any real inventory to choose from.

I don't mind the looks, especially in the lower trims. And I know the technology has come a long way but, still don't like not having another engine option that is not a hybrid. But, I'm sure they'll sell a million of them.

Some of y’all seem triggered that companies other than Toyota make good trucks. That reality doesn’t cheapen the quality of a Toyota. These are consumer products, not religious doctrine.

Also this Sequoia is on the LC chassis just like the new Tacoma and 4Runner will be. They aren’t dumbing it down. If anything they are consolidating to a better platform. All Toyota trucks worldwide will eventually be on that architecture. So we will get solid rear axles and locking diffs where we didn’t have those options before on the Sequoia.

If you don’t like the lack of Diesel engines or are uncomfortable with a turbo gasser….take it up with Biden’s activist EPA. Or buy the V8 model while they are still making it.

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It's not really a new issue. Been in some vehicles for years already.

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Please provide a list of said vehicles.