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Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:40 pm to
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This world is a messed up place, no doubt about it. It's only getting worse.



Crime and murder have dramatically decreased since the late 80's and early 90's

Technology has taken off since then. You have a computer in your hand

We've vaccinated and cured many diseases and have made millions of breakthroughs on the medical front

It's probably the safest time to be alive in human history, at least in the USA. Life is pretty damn good.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:43 pm to
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Life is pretty damn good


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at least in the USA
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:45 pm to
Has some idiot yet said that because the country is on a recent downtrend of violent crimes that you're 100% safe everywhere you go?

Because one of those fricking idiots shows up in every thread.

Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:46 pm to
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Yeah ISIS was way worse back in the 50s.



You know there was a time in the 40's where millions of people were trying to kill each other daily, right?


Oh yeah, and one dude oversaw the murder of 7 million people.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:48 pm to
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we need to reinstitute mental institutions to deal with the spiraling mental health crisis the country is facing.


100% this.

Also, violent crimes and burglary/theft/ larceny committed with a firearm should carry mandatory life in prison.

Innocent people who own guns should be left alone.

Irresponsible gun owners should be locked up for life.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11048 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:48 pm to
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No. We're fine.

This was an isolated incident. Dude clearly had it out for certain people.

Things are actually better now than they've ever been.

I agree with this. It's way better now that religion doesn't run the world.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:48 pm to
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Crime and murder have dramatically decreased since the late 80's and early 90's


I've seen studies that suggest crime has stayed pretty even and murder has solely decreased due to advances in medicine, ability of responding paramedics, and Trauma Center ERs.

Also, crime statistics are skewed due to how they are reported. Behind all police forces who report crime statistics are politicians who are trying to make themselves look good.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:49 pm to
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Has some idiot yet said that because the country is on a recent downtrend of violent crimes that you're 100% safe everywhere you go? 



If by recent trend you mean about 20 years

quote:

Because one of those fricking idiots shows up in every thread. 


I mean that obviously isn't true, but the internet and 24 hour news media have a major impact on the perception of crime compared to the past

Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:50 pm to
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This world is a messed up place, no doubt about it. It's only getting worse


Availability heuristic.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:50 pm to
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murder has solely decreased due to advances in medicine, ability of responding paramedics, and Trauma Center ERs.

Also, crime statistics are skewed due to how they are reported. Behind all police forces who report crime statistics are politicians who are trying to make themselves look good.


You also have to take into account the current climate of the criminal justice system. Far more people plead out to a lesser charge than murder and a shite load of murder suspects sit on appeals for along time.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179159 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:52 pm to
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The Country needs stringent gun control laws


Yea because criminals are deterred by laws.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:52 pm to
That's why I live in Scottsdale
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:53 pm to
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I've seen studies that suggest crime has stayed pretty even and murder has solely decreased due to advances in medicine, ability of responding paramedics, and Trauma Center ERs.


Link the studies. I do a lot of statistical analytics at work and would love to read it.

And there's no doubt that advances in medicine help reduce the number of murders, but you also have to take into account population increases.

quote:

Also, crime statistics are skewed due to how they are reported. Behind all police forces who report crime statistics are politicians who are trying to make themselves look good.



The FBI's data collection has helped with this along with the increase in mobile technology.

This was WAY more of an issue years ago, and we've seen a major increase in domestic violence and sexual crimes as a result.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:54 pm to
ib4 sfp
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:56 pm to
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mean that obviously isn't true, but the internet and 24 hour news media have a major impact on the perception of crime compared to the past


I agree on a countrywide scale and all that, but also factually, Louisiana has 2 of the top 30 murder by capita one of which is in the top 10.

So yes, there is a downward trend, but major cities are still very dangerous, and especially in Louisiana, Maryland, and Illinois.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24682 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:56 pm to
Genocide still goes on people...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:56 pm to
You're just full of terrible ideas, aren't you?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:58 pm to
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Yea because criminals are deterred by laws.



That's what I'm saying.

We don't need stronger preemptive gun control.

We need mandatory life sentences for any violent crimes committed with firearms. And any nonviolent crimes committed with firearms should carry hefty possible sentences as well.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29466 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:58 pm to
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Also, crime statistics are skewed due to how they are reported. Behind all police forces who report crime statistics are politicians who are trying to make themselves look good.


They touch on this subject by covering the violent crime rate in Japan in the original Freakonomics. Pretty interesting.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17123 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:59 pm to
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Has some idiot yet said that because the country is on a recent downtrend of violent crimes that you're 100% safe everywhere you go?


I don't think anyone has ever made such a claim. Do you have a link to such a claim? You are obviously never 100% safe.
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