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re: Never talk to the police
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:31 am to LSUballsack
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:31 am to LSUballsack
I was in law enforcement in the military most of my adult life until retirement and I tell anyone who asks the same thing. If the police ask you any questions. Give them one answer. "Lawyer" don't say anything else until you speak to an attorney.
As an investigator I saw enough innocent people just get nervous or scared or what have you and end up getting themselves in trouble for no reason to know that it isn't only the guilty who should consult with an attorney before talking to police.
As an investigator I saw enough innocent people just get nervous or scared or what have you and end up getting themselves in trouble for no reason to know that it isn't only the guilty who should consult with an attorney before talking to police.
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Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't know a single person who hasn't had to talk to a cop at some point in their life
You mean in regards to an actual crime beyond traffic violations? There are a lot of people out there who never have to talk to the police about a crime
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:37 am to Tdogg78
I think not talking to the cops is the best thing, but one morning on the way to work I got pulled over for illegal passing and the cop smelt my weed immediately. He took me out of the car and ended up finding my bowl, freshly packed (actually took 2 hits but corned the frick out of it so it looked as if I didn't smoke it yet 
).
In total, 3 cop cars showed up (this is was in the fricking backwoods country, with a small arse town (1,000 people). I talked to one cop the whole time, shooting the shite and for being a cop, was cool about the situation. Even told me that they had hidden speed detectors out in the trees seeing how fast people go there. Even said he wouldn't pull them over unless they going 80+ (at this area it is a passing lane for about a mile or two where everyone guns it to get by the semi's. So they actually pretty cool about it).
So the Sheriff gets out after writing the tickets and stuff, but ended up only giving me a citation for the weed. In my state they are pretty damn returded about weed and I've never heard of anyone getting a citation instead of being arrested. Guess he knew if I got arrested I would get fired from my job, so let me go.
I believe if from the start I pulled the 'never talk to the police' card, I would have been arrested and in jail that morning. I think that there might be times not to follow the rule ,but those times are very limited.
). In total, 3 cop cars showed up (this is was in the fricking backwoods country, with a small arse town (1,000 people). I talked to one cop the whole time, shooting the shite and for being a cop, was cool about the situation. Even told me that they had hidden speed detectors out in the trees seeing how fast people go there. Even said he wouldn't pull them over unless they going 80+ (at this area it is a passing lane for about a mile or two where everyone guns it to get by the semi's. So they actually pretty cool about it).
So the Sheriff gets out after writing the tickets and stuff, but ended up only giving me a citation for the weed. In my state they are pretty damn returded about weed and I've never heard of anyone getting a citation instead of being arrested. Guess he knew if I got arrested I would get fired from my job, so let me go.
I believe if from the start I pulled the 'never talk to the police' card, I would have been arrested and in jail that morning. I think that there might be times not to follow the rule ,but those times are very limited.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:41 am to celltech1981
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I'm guessing you'd rather suck off a cop, not talk to him.
I'd rather simply not be a criminal, and then i don't have to worry about how i'm supposed to interact with a cop questioning me about a serious offense.
I know it's hard for some of you dumbass's to realize, but some of us don't have run ins with the police outside of normal traffic stops. It's called not being a fricking dumbass piece of trash. At no point in my life am i going to have to convince a cop of my innocence for something other than a routine traffic stop.
If police are asking you questions that require you to say "lawyer" and nothing else, you've made some really stupid decision in your life, and you're likely a worthless sack of trash to society.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:44 am to Dawgholio
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The police are on the police side of the law. Not yours
people need to understand this
VERY often, it's a game. it's not about the truth, being right, being wrong, etc. it's about winning
since our system isn't based on the truth, and instead is based on evidence, innocent people can tell the truth and still be convicted
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:44 am to LSUballsack
Here's a simple example.
After an officer involved shooting, the cops don't even talk to investigators without their lawyer. That should clear up any doubt.
After an officer involved shooting, the cops don't even talk to investigators without their lawyer. That should clear up any doubt.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:45 am to dawgsjlw
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In my state they are pretty damn returded about weed and I've never heard of anyone getting a citation instead of being arrested.
if you live in GA, its quite common to just get a citation for something like that
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:47 am to Damone
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Agreed. No innocent person has ever been convicted, much less charged, with a crime they didn't commit.
no innocent person has ever pled guilty to a crime he/she didn't commit
no innocent person has ever confessed to a crime he/she didn't commit, either
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:47 am to upgrayedd
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Here's a simple example.
After an officer involved shooting, the cops don't even talk to investigators without their lawyer. That should clear up any doubt.
You stop it with that logic and reason RIGHT NOW SIR!
*Insert hesrightyouknow gif here*
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
It's fascinating to me how cops can convince people that they did something the didn't do if given enough time and pressure.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:50 am to upgrayedd
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Here's a simple example.
After an officer involved shooting, the cops don't even talk to investigators without their lawyer. That should clear up any doubt.
^ Bingo
Because cops know , hey even innocent people can get rolled up in an investigation if they dohn't have a professional advising them. And we aren't just talking about because bad cops just want to make an arrest. We're talking about I've seen people admit to a crime that wasn't even being investigated in fact we didn't even know anything about until they opened their mouths. I've seen people talk their way into trouble when they weren't even suspects, I was just gathering background information. I've seen all sorts of weird things.
Having a lawyer present is just prudent unless we're talking about a simple citation, in which case the prudent thing is take your ticket and move on , fight it in court if you think the cop was in the wrong .
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:53 am to TeddyPadillac
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I'd rather simply not be a criminal, and then i don't have to worry about how i'm supposed to interact with a cop questioning me about a serious offense.
Guess you didn't watch the video.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:54 am to NYCAuburn
quote:In Atlanta it is decriminalized and you only get a $75 fine and no arrests. Other than that, I have never heard of anyone not getting arrested for it, but hopefully it is true. It really needs to be made legal, and it would generate a ton of money for the schools and children. Why won't people think of the childrens.
if you live in GA, its quite common to just get a citation for something like that
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:55 am to Pesticide
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Long story short, the 2 little turds were making snapchat videos acting like tough guys but were really little pussies. Had they not talked to me, they would have been in jail. Instead, they got a trespassing summons.
Did they snapchat the chase, and being detained?? Like ballers??
Did they cry though? Ha
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:55 am to LSUballsack
I prefer to be intentionally and frustratingly vague in response to questions. You'll get asked the same question 20 times in different ways, so it's fun. You have to be careful, because they can and will write (and fabricate) whatever they want in their police report. Intentionally omitting pertinent information happens in basically every arrest in the United States. I've never been arrested when that didn't happen.
For traffic tickets, I don't even bother. I've only ever been let off of one ticket, so it's not even worth it to try
For traffic tickets, I don't even bother. I've only ever been let off of one ticket, so it's not even worth it to try
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Is this the Twilight Zone? People plead out every day, because the sentence is less than the time it takes to fight it in court. That's exactly how prosecutors get wins
no innocent person has ever pled guilty to a crime he/she didn't commit
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:02 am to Hammertime
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You'll get asked the same question 20 times in different ways, so it's fun. You have to be careful, because they can and will write (and fabricate) whatever they want in their police report. Intentionally omitting pertinent information happens in basically every arrest in the United States. I've never been arrested when that didn't happen.
bullshite.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:06 am to upgrayedd
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It's fascinating to me how cops can convince people that they did something the didn't do if given enough time and pressure.
People have confessed to things they couldn't have done because they were somewhere else at the time.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:08 am to Jim Rockford
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People have confessed to things they couldn't have done because they were somewhere else at the time.
Seen that happen too.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:10 am to upgrayedd
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It's fascinating to me how cops can convince people that they did something the didn't do if given enough time and pressure.
and not just minor shite. murder and rape
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