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re: Net neutrality's impact on free porn could be significant
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:54 pm to Trauma14
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:54 pm to Trauma14
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I still haven't gotten a reasonable explanation from anyone on why these fear-mongering tactics of the pro net neutrality people didn't happen pre October 2015.
I'm not heavily vested in either side NN but I've seen this answered in almost every NN thread. It's almost always ignored, though.
I don't want to make the argument, because frankly, I really have no idea who is correct or what I'm talking about, but those that do make it claim that the basics of NN were honored from the early days of the net until up to a few years ago.
Hopefully, someone who is actually familiar with the specifics can fill in the blanks.
Again, not arguing the validity, just responding to your statement that no one has given a reasonable argument.
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:00 pm to northshorebamaman
Will see a lot more underground type sites popping up and a lot more social media broadcasting and live YouTube videos. Can’t wait
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:04 pm to WPBTiger
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The changes will impact anyone’s ability to watch porn
I'm gonna frickin hang myself
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:20 pm to Trauma14
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still haven't gotten a reasonable explanation from anyone on why these fear-mongering tactics of the pro net neutrality people didn't happen pre October 2015. Free porn existed before net neutrality. Why all of a sudden will it change? Getting rid of net neutrality revert back to the same regulations that existed from 1996 until October 2015. Why for 21 years did these ISPs not do these crazy tactics that everyone is saying is going to happen all the sudden?
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FTC can handle it. And did.
Because a 2014 court ruling put the FTCs authority into question. The court ruled that non-common carrier services (ISPs) of common carriers (ATT, Verizon, etc) could not be regulated by the FTC due to the common carrier exemption. It has been appealed, but is very much under question still.
The fact that you didn't know that shows you clearly know little about this issue.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:23 pm to WPBTiger
You people need to find Jesus and repent before it's too late.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:24 pm to WPBTiger
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91 billion videos
Just think. 250 million sperm per view.
It's a fricking genocide.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:34 pm to WPBTiger
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Pornhub viewers alone watched over 91 billion videos
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there were a total of 44,000 visits to the site per hour
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:39 pm to WPBTiger
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The changes will impact anyone’s ability to watch porn and to upload their own pornographic content.
horseshite. Did Free porn exist before “net nutrality”? Yes, it did. And it’s going to exist after it as well.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:37 pm to 25 Point Lead
So you actually answered my question with fact based reasoning, but essentially called me an idiot at the same time. Very sweet of you!
The fact I didn't know this after reading article after article and it never came up shows 99% debating this and writing about this don't know either and continue to regurgitate the same fear-mongering talking points but without back up explanations as to why. The point of my original question.
I am very open to learning and have read up now on this ruling and subsequent appeals. Thanks for the information.
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The fact that you didn't know that shows you clearly know little about this issue.
The fact I didn't know this after reading article after article and it never came up shows 99% debating this and writing about this don't know either and continue to regurgitate the same fear-mongering talking points but without back up explanations as to why. The point of my original question.
I am very open to learning and have read up now on this ruling and subsequent appeals. Thanks for the information.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:50 pm to WPBTiger
Yea porn may go back to the way it was in 2012 before net neutrality
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:06 pm to Trauma14
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I still haven't gotten a reasonable explanation from anyone on why these fear-mongering tactics of the pro net neutrality people didn't happen pre October 2015. Free porn existed before net neutrality. Why all of a sudden will it change? Getting rid of net neutrality revert back to the same regulations that existed from 1996 until October 2015. Why for 21 years did these ISPs not do these crazy tactics that everyone is saying is going to happen all the sudden?
This is what I posted in a group text:
Yes, technically we are going back to the rules that existed before 2015. But before 2015 there was an understanding between the FCC and ISPs that
If net neutrality wasn’t adhered to, then the FCC would codify it and enforce it. Well, some ISPs started acting in ways that violated NN so the FCC codified it. You see, we really aren’t going back to the way it was before 2015, because now the ISPs have the greenlight to get away with as much as they can where before they were very cautious not to draw any attention from the FCC.
Here is a story on the first major NN violation that led to the govt backing NN
Cnet 2005
As for this specifically:
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I still haven't gotten a reasonable explanation from anyone on why these fear-mongering tactics of the pro net neutrality people didn't happen pre October 2015.
The first time I heard of NN was at least 2008. There are several tiger droppings NN threads pre October 2015.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:09 pm to Darth_Vader
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Did Free porn exist before “net nutrality”? Yes, it did. And it’s going to exist after it as well.
NN has been the philosophy of the internet since it's inception. There was no "internet before NN".
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:19 pm to Sao
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I'm not saying I'm going to look at it, I'm just saying it comes with the site. I don't know what I'm going to be into in 10 years.
Savvy
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:25 pm to Balloon Huffer
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What about your water? elec? trash?
How many complaints have you filed about these gov controlled monopolies?
I suppose you simply haven't been spoon fed that talking point yet....... I wonder why.
All of those are regulated as utilities. You know, they are commanded by the govt to be neutral. The water company isn't telling me that I can only have 1 PSI of pressure today because the hospital down the street has priority. They aren't selling me a $20/month upcharge for lead free water. The electricity company isn't telling me I can have only 4 appliances plugged in for $50/month and each additional appliance is $20/month. Or telling me that if I want electricity between the hours of 5-9 PM it is an extra $100/month. Or that GE appliances get free electricity (because GE made the steam turbines that generated the power), but my LG appliances have to pay for electricity.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 2:08 pm to colorchangintiger
I will pay 70 a month for fricking sewage in a year though because Modad fricking sucks as a company and they met with Louisiana officials at a resort in Toledo Bend where they approved their rate increase because the company can't manage their nooks correctly.
If there was a true free market then I could choose my provider. No, I have to move instead. With electricity I have one provider as well same with garbage.
With internet though I have options. Telecoms charged for years making calls in certain times would cost more but the free market changed that.
If there was a true free market then I could choose my provider. No, I have to move instead. With electricity I have one provider as well same with garbage.
With internet though I have options. Telecoms charged for years making calls in certain times would cost more but the free market changed that.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 2:31 pm to Catman88
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If there was a true free market then I could choose my provider. No, I have to move instead. With electricity I have one provider as well same with garbage.
That's because laying out multiple infrastructures to do the same job is cost prohibitive. How do you think you could use a different sewage company? Would they route your sewage specifically through the existing pipes via valves? Or would the new company run an entire new multi-mile sewage line to just your house at the cost of multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars? Looking at an engineering proposal from 2009 it cost an estimated $307,000 to put in roughly 800 feet of new sewer line. At $70/month, how long would it take to pay for that new line? 365 years.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 2:47 pm to colorchangintiger
There hasn't been a new line run in my neighborhood that has its own treatment plant in 15 years. When I moved in it cost 19 a month for the same treatment I get at 70 a month. There has been 0 improvement to the site and the real reason they are needing money? Paying out fines to the EPA for failing to properly use the money we pay them to take care of their equipement.
Our neighborhood should have the ability to fire them but we cannot thanks to government control over it.
Our neighborhood should have the ability to fire them but we cannot thanks to government control over it.
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