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re: Negotiating Starting Salary

Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:35 pm to
Just talked with guy about a potential job when I retire, they actually approached me. All we did was talk about how cool the project that I would be involved with is. Totally different exiting a career when money isn’t the huge motivator.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40333 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:36 pm to
What do you think about this:

quote:

So I drug my feet and lead the guy on, only to decline at the last minute.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3766 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:39 pm to
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I'm not negotiating salary with someone with little to no experience for given position. 


Even in this instance, done the right way the employee can always ask and a respectful conversation can take place. It is a huge mistake for employees to just settle into work and not ask questions.

Actually, one of the myriad of reasons for the "wage gap" is that men are less agreeable than women and more likely to ask for more money. If you don't ask, they will always be happy to pay you less.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
94006 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

So I drug my feet and lead the guy on, only to decline at the last minute.


Not the best strategy.

That said, sometimes there are extenuating factors at play that lead to situations like that. While the candidate thinks they're being led-on, it sometimes involves business decisions/performance that someone from the company can't discuss that gives that impression.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40333 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:02 pm to
Man, I couldn't tolerate that from a potential hire. If I make you an offer nad you can't decide in a reasonable time, I'm moving on.

quote:

the candidate thinks they're being led-on, it sometimes involves business decisions/performance that someone from the company can't discuss that gives that impression.


I try to never do that with potential employees, or even contractors.

It is sometimes unavoidable, but it is a PITA for all concerned.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1594 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:39 pm to
There was some good info in this thread! I've attempted to negotiate salary for each of last 5 jobs i've had since leaving the military. Sometimes the wage scale isn't advertised and you are asked for a range on the application, so I throw out a wider spread than normal but have my bottom line for sure.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
94006 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Sometimes the wage scale isn't advertised and you are asked for a range on the application, so I throw out a wider spread than normal but have my bottom line for sure.


Yep...I never advertise a range, as you will automatically have people dismiss you if they think they are either far too under, or over, the range. Whereas, a lot of times, you can actually come to an agreement. I also don't want competitors knowing what we pay.

When I speak to people I'm looking to hire I ask one question early in the negotiation phase:

"What do you NEED to make in order for this to work?"

I don't care about what you're currently getting, I don't care about what you want...I care about what you need in order to come here.

So, after they give me that number, and as long as it's in-line with ours, then I will follow-up with:

"If I can get you that number, then can I count on you accepting an offer?"

Harder for you to negotiate after that (especially with a wishful number), but also makes me look like a good guy if I inch up a bit for you (if I have the budget).
Posted by Trump_Hands
P-Ville LA
Member since Sep 2019
229 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:00 pm to
I negotiate everything at work.
My salary, my responsibilities, where we are going for lunch.
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