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re: Negotiating a signing bonus and making a counter offer

Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:32 am to
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:32 am to
quote:

How many times have you changed jobs in the past year? Seems like a lot.

Don't ask for more money. Just take the amount you spend in moving as an adjustment to your gross income on your next tax return (side note: you have to work at the new location for at least 75% of the next year).


I've been at my current position for 15 months, so I haven't changed jobs

I think I need to at least try to ask for more money. Here is the list of expenses that I have come up with:

FIRST TRIP GAS 300
CHEYENNE, WY HOTEL 85
BOISE, ID HOTEL 80
SEATTLE HOTEL MON 120
SEATTLE HOTEL TUE 120
APARTMENT DEPOSIT 500
PLANE TICKET SEATTLE-OMAHA 240
UHAUL TRUCK 1 WAY 1150
UHAUL TRUCK GAS 700
RAPID CITY, SD HOTEL 100
MISSOULA, MT HOTEL 80
MOVERS 350
TOTAL 3825


And that doesn't include things like food or cab fares or airport parking.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:34 am to
Damn, my company will pay up to 30K I believe for relocation and moving expenses, including expenses to sell your house and hire professionals to move you.

This is aside from any signing bonus though I'm sure they look at them together when determining total package
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63015 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:35 am to
quote:

You do the math


It sounds like you got a very low-balled amount, if they consider it one pool for both "signing bonus" and relo.

If they seem accommodating, obviously the risk of asking is reduced.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:36 am to
I got an internship the other day. At first, the HR lady told me they would pay me $10/hr. I told her that wasn't enough, and she just came out and offered $15/hr immediately. Easiest negotiation I've ever done. Extra $200 each week in my pocket
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:36 am to
Depends on how bad they want you and specialty of field.

I have a limit on relocation bonuses , all based off of how far the move. Now the sign on bonus there is wiggle room. If they won't work with you on relo bonus, work off of the sign on.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:36 am to
You're such a whiny bitch. I've never seen someone have so much trouble getting through life than you. Obviously you make things more complicated than they need to be. They just gave you a job and now you want them to give you more money? Get the frick over yourself brah
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54134 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:37 am to
I would eliminate the apartment deposit from the list. Then send the anticipated expenses with your request that is phrased in a polite, professional and appreciative tone.

Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:37 am to
In your position, if I were to counter that offer, id try to counter the salary and not the additional 1500 in moving expenses

A higher base salary affects what you earn and will earn for years to come.

1500 is nothing
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5159 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:37 am to
My BIL relocated to Seattle 2 years ago and was offered the same relo package. He was advised by his recruiter that the package was firm and was somewhat of a best and final so he did not ask for more.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:41 am to
Simple solution.. Ask if they have an option where you can save your receipts and get reimbursed for the charges of moving.

When I moved across the country they let me choose between 12k moving allowance or reimbursement
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:44 am to
quote:

They just gave you a job and now you want them to give you more money? Get the frick over yourself brah


Terrible advice
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted by BLM
ATL
Member since Oct 2011
746 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:46 am to
Make sure you calculate ALL expenses in consideration of this move. How much will you end up spending on vehicle registration/taxes? Sounds like a small detail but I've been hit for $2,500 when relocating to another state.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65725 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:50 am to

Take the apartment costs and food off your list. If nothing else, see if the overages can, at minimum, be submitted as expenses to your new cost center (or an alternative CC) for reimbursement. Go into the new position as someone who can offer solutions and not come across as demanding.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6905 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Take the apartment costs and food off your list. If nothing else, see if the overages can, at minimum, be submitted as expenses to your new cost center (or an alternative CC) for reimbursement. Go into the new position as someone who can offer solutions and not come across as demanding


As a demanding pain-in-the-arse. Sao is offering you some very sound advice here.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Take the apartment costs and food off your list. If nothing else, see if the overages can, at minimum, be submitted as expenses to your new cost center (or an alternative CC) for reimbursement. Go into the new position as someone who can offer solutions and not come across as demanding.


I took off the apartment deposit(although paying the deposit + first months rent will not be cheap) but even then I will still need about $1200 more than what they are offering.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54134 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:02 am to
Then tell them that. Ask for an additional signing bonus or the option of saving receipts and being reimbursed for reasonable moving expenses. This is pretty basic stuff. Your inability to easily deal with this concerns me a little.

Do you have any medical history that explains your unique behavior?
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 10:03 am
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3468 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:04 am to
When I relocated I was able to just keep receipts for movers, hotel, moving supplies, storage unit, ect and then submit them as a reimbursement of expenses. That way it isn't taxed as income.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:09 am to
Yeah, the apartment deposit is not part of the equation. Lol
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65725 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:14 am to

Is the position in sales by chance?
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Is the position in sales by chance?


No

It is a supervisory role
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