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re: Negotiating a diamond ring

Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88069 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:51 am to
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You should negotiate your way out of buying it. They are a racket



they really are, I knew a jeweler(when it was my time,) and he would have diamonds shipped to me from all over the place to look at, he said when I found something I wanted we could design a setting and it saved a lot, was really surprise at how the diamond wholesalers would just ship diamonds to an individual with no questions asked, no deposit or insurance required
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82652 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:55 am to
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If you pay $20K for an engagement ring, your marriage is guaranteed to fail

Because either your bride is a greedy bitch, you’re a complete idiot, or both


It's all relative. If you make $800k a year, $20k is a steal!

I think the 3 month bullshite is complete horseshite to begin with, but it's even MORE horseshite once you get into people who are high earners. Even if you bring home $800k a year, there is absolutely zero reason your bride should be walking around with a $200k ring. That's absurd, and dangerous to boot. You better be rich enough that she never mixes with the peons at that point.. and $800k ain't it.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6393 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:56 am to
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Lab created - she'll never know the difference.


People who never married say this...
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82652 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:57 am to
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People who never married say this...



From what I understand, it is pretty hard to tell. Even jewelers can't without special tools. She will only know if she goes to get rid of it post-divorce. And at that point, who cares?

If your partner is the type that would take her engagement ring to be deeply analyzed while she is engaged/married to you, ya got much bigger fish to fry, my friend.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31934 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:58 am to
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Lab created - she'll never know the difference.


People who never married say this...


There is one part of that thinking which is correct.

Really one should by 2 rings. 1 real, and 1 with a CZ copy. Keep the real one safe except for special occasions and the CZ for everyday wearing.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6393 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:58 am to
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Don't see/get how or why people pay lots of money for engagement rings!



Same can be said for automobiles, watches, houses, vacation, food.... Some people like nice things and are willing to pay for it.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88069 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:59 am to
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Same can be said for automobiles, watches, houses, vacation, food....


uh, something about these things are different from a rock?
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6393 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:00 am to
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Really one should by 2 rings. 1 real, and 1 with a CZ copy. Keep the real one safe except for special occasions and the CZ for everyday wearing.




Why buy something of meaning to you and keep it locked away never to use once every 5yrs? If investment only, sure otherwise what are you "saving" it for?
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 10:01 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88069 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:01 am to
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Why buy something of meaning to you and keep it locked away never to use once every 5yrs? If investment only, sure otherwise what are you "saving" it for?



typing with your elbows baw? or is this code?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21690 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:03 am to
Start with blue Nile for price points then go from there.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6393 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:03 am to
quote:

uh, something about these things are different from a rock?




For you maybe...

Some people see no need for a watch when they have a phone, no need for a luxury car when a Kia will get you to where you need to go, etc.

Everyone has a vice, it's up to the buyer to deem it worthy.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 10:05 am
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:05 am to
Diamonds are so 1987. Sapphires, emeralds, a colored stone, dude honestly go with that. You can get bigger, shinier, and more creative.
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:09 am to
Just bought an engagement ring a couple months ago and did A LOT of research. Feel free to email me at lsufan2626 @ gmail
if you want any tips/advice
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82652 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:13 am to
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Why buy something of meaning to you and keep it locked away never to use once every 5yrs? If investment only, sure otherwise what are you "saving" it for?



I can't speak for the person that said that, but we absolutely decided this is happening.. and it has nothing to do with investments. We are social people, and we are drinkers. I haven't lost any jewelry lately, but anything can happen when alcohol comes into the picture.

Yeah, for a homebody type couple with kids, probably not needed. For us, absolutely needed.

EDIT - I don't agree with the "special occasion" phrasing he used. Rather.. don't wear the expensive ring to long nights out and in places like downtown NOLA. You can and should absolutely wear it during the day, to work, to dinner, etc. Essentially, the CZ comes out less often but it used when needed.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 10:15 am
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:18 am to
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Lab created - she'll never know the difference.

quote:

People who never married say this...

I am assuming they are referring to a lab-grown diamond and not CZ...

And if you were under the same assumption, she won't be able to tell the difference between lab-grown vs. natural unless she takes it in to be checked. Even then, it's difficult to tell the difference. She'll also be able to tell if she sees the certification
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6393 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:24 am to
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And if you were under the same assumption, she won't be able to tell the difference between lab-grown vs. natural unless she takes it in to be checked. Even then, it's difficult to tell the difference. She'll also be able to tell if she sees the certification


Most women want to know what they have, well the ones I know at least especially for something that expensive. Take it for a jeweler cleaning and diamond talk will come up.
Posted by tylerlsu2008
Monaco
Member since Jul 2015
1498 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:29 am to
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If you pay $20K for an engagement ring, your marriage is guaranteed to fail

Because either your bride is a greedy bitch, you’re a complete idiot, or both


I paid nearly $32k all in, diamond was ~30K of it.

She's paying for the wedding, she's a partner at a top law firm, she makes more money than me, she's agreed to buy me an engagement watch -- so yeah, wouldn't agree with that blanket assessment.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
2785 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:30 am to
I went local in Lafayette and paid like $4k for engagement ring and wedding band. My wife picked out what she wanted and that was pretty much it.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24985 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:31 am to
Go to James Allen or Blue Nile.

/thread
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39803 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:31 am to
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Most women want to know what they have, well the ones I know at least especially for something that expensive. Take it for a jeweler cleaning and diamond talk will come up



"its cheaper, it looks the same, sourced ethically, looks the same, serves the exact same purpose, cheaper, looks the same and it is the exact ring you wanted but with lab diamonds" Him

"that is not the point" her
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