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Naval UFO encounters
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:23 pm
When pressed from a freedom of information request the government said top-secret UFO files could 'gravely damage' US national security if released
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Wiki on the incident: LINK
Good documentary on it: Tic Tac Encounter
What are your thoughts on it? I don’t believe in extraterrestrials visiting the Earth, whatever this was is man made. But wtf is it? And why would it "gravely endanger the security of the US"?
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In November 2004, several U.S. Navy pilots stationed aboard the USS Nimitz encountered a Tic-Tac-shaped UFO darting and dashing over the Pacific Ocean in apparent defiance of the laws of physics. Navy officials dubbed the strange craft an "unidentified aerial phenomenon," but they have remained mum on what, exactly, that phenomenon could've been. Now, unsurprisingly to anyone who's ever considered making a hat out of tinfoil, the military has confirmed they know more than they're letting on.
In response to a recent Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, a spokesperson from the Navy's Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) confirmed that the agency possesses several top-secret documents and at least one classified video pertaining to the 2004 UFO encounter, Vice reported.
According to the ONI spokesperson, these documents were either labeled "SECRET" or "TOP SECRET" by the agencies that provided them, and that sharing the information with the public "would cause exceptionally grave damage to the National Security of the United States."
Wiki on the incident: LINK
Good documentary on it: Tic Tac Encounter
What are your thoughts on it? I don’t believe in extraterrestrials visiting the Earth, whatever this was is man made. But wtf is it? And why would it "gravely endanger the security of the US"?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
Son, just let it go.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
Would let people know we have the ability to space travel and were jumping around the universe
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:27 pm to DavidTheGnome
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And why would it "gravely endanger the security of the US"?
Bc it would put the US in violation of the Greada Treaty of 1954 and the The Greys would annihilate us
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:28 pm to DavidTheGnome
This seems like making something out of nothing. They’re basically saying they won’t release the source of a video that shouldn’t have been leaked in the first place because it’s classified.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:33 pm to TigerinATL
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This seems like making something out of nothing. They’re basically saying they won’t release the source of a video that shouldn’t have been leaked in the first place because it’s classified.
Why would they say it puts national security in grave danger? And what about the multiple eyewitnesses that saw these things and the way they "flew"?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
I believe in UFOs and that the government has some but we haven't been able to figure out their technology.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:40 pm to fallguy_1978
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we haven't been able to figure out their technology.
Space Force was enacted. Do we not? I'm curious too.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:45 pm to fallguy_1978
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I believe in UFOs
There are absolutely UFOs out there and the government will readily admit that. The question is are those I identified objects extraterrestrial in nature. In my opinion, no.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:45 pm to DavidTheGnome
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/top-secret-navy-ufo-slides-whats-likely-on-them
If the tech above is not ours - who/what has this tech?
If it is ours - why have we not seen it integrated into society to combat “climate change”. Energy markets would be revolutionized (crippling some industries in the process)? Everything changes.
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Top-secret Navy UFO slides: What's likely on them
by Tom Rogan | January 15, 2020 06:00 AM
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Here, the ONI is almost certainly referring to active UFO research and analysis programs undertaken by the Navy and other government agencies. Former U.S. government officials involved in those programs have asserted that the UFO research effort is active and growing. I have spoken to other well-informed individuals who assert the same. And, considering that these programs are attempting to ascertain how some UFOs use anti-gravity-enabled means of propulsion to accelerate instantaneously to hypersonic speeds, with little, and sometimes zero, optical/sensor visibility, it's understandable that the ONI would want to keep their research hidden.
That's because the "sources and methods" involved here include extremely high-capability ground-, air-, and sea-based sensor systems, including platforms used for countering ballistic missile strikes. And, if the slides include sensor data analysis of UFO tracks, then China and Russia could use those slides to better mitigate the risk of their own forces (which are not these UFOs) being detected and defeated in a future conflict. Obviously, that's not something ONI wants.
If the tech above is not ours - who/what has this tech?
If it is ours - why have we not seen it integrated into society to combat “climate change”. Energy markets would be revolutionized (crippling some industries in the process)? Everything changes.
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How about the next ONI concern? Protecting "scientific and technological matters related to [U.S. national security]." Well, I would confidently venture that this is the nuclear-related UFO concern. Specifically, the proven and sustaining interest in and the ability of some UFOs to detect and interdict nuclear-powered and/or armed U.S. military platforms. The government assesses that this nuclear factor is primarily why the Navy's nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and nuclear-powered/nuclear-armed ballistic missile submarines interact with UFOs at a far greater rate than other military platforms. This greatly concerns the government.
After all, aircraft carriers are the linchpin of the Navy's war-fighting doctrine, and nuclear weapons are the last, final line of defense against existential attack. And if, as with some UFOs, something with far more advanced technology than anything in the U.S. inventory can intercept our nuclear forces with impunity, that something can credibly impose existential defeat on America on day one of a fight. As the government attempts to figure out how these UFOs detect our nuclear platforms, it obviously doesn't want China or Russia to share in that knowledge.
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I'd venture a conclusion along the lines of "non-U.S., intelligently operated vehicles of unidentified origin, which are judged with high confidence not to be under control of a foreign state or nonstate actor."
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:53 pm to DavidTheGnome
Found this interesting summary someone had posted about it:
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I have done a huge amount of research on this topic ever since the story broke in the New York Times two years ago about the Pentagon’s secret UFO research project. There’s a huge amount to unpack, but I’ll summarize as concisely as possible:
The former head of the Pentagon’s secret UFO research project (Luis Elizondo) says that they’re definitely real, they’re not ours, and they’re a definite concern. He had security clearances and spent years working with people within the government trying to figure this out, and he testified that the program existed before he ran it and exists today.
Elizondo left to join a group called To The Stars Academy whose goal is to bring attention to the subject through multiple arms, including entertainment (with Tom DeLonge as the lead man on that part). TTSA has a board of advisors that includes former CIA and DOD personnel with extremely impressive credentials, including the former Deputy Director of National Security, Chris Mellon.
The US Army recently signed into a joint research program to study physical material that TTSA is in possession of which is believed may be a piece of material from a craft.
Based on the classified details which Elizondo had access to, and the ones he’s now able to discuss publicly, the craft have five “observables:” They have no visible means of propulsion and seem able to defy gravity; they can perform sudden and instant changes in acceleration; they can travel at hypersonic speeds without creating a sonic boom; and they can travel in air, vacuum, and under water.
During training exercises, a carrier fleet monitored multiple objects over a period of days. The objects not only hovered for days at a time, but were tracked moving from 80,000 feet to just above sea level in .74 seconds—an impossible feat by all physical standards. They were witnessed by eye as well as on multiple imaging systems.
The executive report from the incident backs up the claims that have been made, and people from the Navy who had first-hand experience with the craft have testified that they definitely exist and performed as described.
The Pentagon has made conflicting statements about this, but the man in charge of the UFO research program and the Navy men and women who witnessed the craft all agree that the Pentagon is covering their asses because they don’t want to admit to the public that there are craft frequently entering our airspace that defy the laws of physics.
If these craft are ours, then the US government has technology which can solve humanity’s problems and is covering it up.
If these craft belong to a foreign power then they will literally have the power to rule the planet should they choose to do so.
If these craft aren’t ours and they aren’t theirs (as Elizondo believes), then we need to sit up straight and pay attention.
Finally, I’ll say this: The UFO community is full of crackpots and nut jobs (Please, I beg of you, don’t visit the subreddits). That doesn’t mean that this isn’t a legitimate subject that needs research
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 pm to DavidTheGnome
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What are your thoughts on it? I don’t believe in extraterrestrials visiting the Earth, whatever this was is man made. But wtf is it? And why would it "gravely endanger the security of the US"?
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Conspiracy theory speculation that the global elite would attempt to inaugurate the godless, totalitarian, and liberal New World Order by staging a fake alien invasion of Earth under Project Blue Beam, first emerged in the 1980s when the Quebecois conspiracy theorist Serge Monast claimed existence of a top-secret program — managed jointly by NASA and the Pentagon — to use a false-flag extraterrestrial threat to deceive the world to cede power to the global elite.
That is, the global elite would try to convince the world to agree to a proposal of single world government as the only way to save mankind from alien invasion and takeover.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:14 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Why would they say it puts national security in grave danger?
Because that's literally the definition of something being Top Secret, which was the entire point of my post, they took the standard wording on anything classified as Top Secret and acted like it was unusual. This was essentially "no comment" and they're acting like the military accidentally confirmed everything.
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The highest security classification. "Top Secret shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause "exceptionally grave damage" to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe."[18] It is believed that 1.4 million Americans have top secret clearances.
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what about the multiple eyewitnesses that saw these things and the way they "flew"?
I'm not disputing the video. I've posted in other threads discussing the Nimitz that the Navy has recently been granted patents on vehicles/technology similar to those in the video. If I had to bet I'd say they're real, they're ours, and they aren't alien, they're the result of Billions of dollars poured into military research over the past 70+ years. Anti gravity devices were a known area of interest since the 50s IIRC.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:20 am to DavidTheGnome
No one said it was a manned tic tac ufo. Coulda been a robotic one
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:37 am to DavidTheGnome
Just take some DMT and ask the grays yourself.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:58 am to treysnaves
They could be drones of sorts. They would lack a biological passenger that would otherwise die from the rapid acceleration......however, humans are very arrogant in thinking they/we understand all the laws of physics on which the universe is based. Much like an ant solving a mathematical equation.
Understand this people, humans are far more ignorant than you realize.
Understand this people, humans are far more ignorant than you realize.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:47 am to CharlesLSU
Yeah I’m definitely of the impression that they’re drones. But even still it doesn’t explain the hovering, movements, instant acceleration and stopping, and speed.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:59 am to DavidTheGnome
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they can perform sudden and instant changes in acceleration; they can travel at hypersonic speeds without creating a sonic boom; and they can travel in air, vacuum, and under water.
Brief flash
Couldn't help but picture a Far Side cartoon featuring a cat reporting after watching a laser pointer...
Carry on...
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:05 am to DavidTheGnome
If another life form has the technology for interplanetary travel.
They will do with us what they want.
They will do with us what they want.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:37 am to DavidTheGnome
Joe Rogan David Favor
jeez lil gnome, you really are stuck in October 2019.
Plot twist: the pictures you see are just one ship out of a formation of ships(that we will probably never see).
jeez lil gnome, you really are stuck in October 2019.
Plot twist: the pictures you see are just one ship out of a formation of ships(that we will probably never see).
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 7:39 am
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