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re: Natchez Trace driver who hit and ran, lied & destroyed evidence WILL face federal charges

Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:49 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:49 am to
Cyclists irritate me as a driver, but it's one of those situations of they have just as much right to the road as I do. Now the ones who suddenly become pedestrians whenever it's a red light? They can ride the bicycle with no seat for all I care.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:53 am to
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This guy deserves every bit of the 37 years but I doubt he will end up getting it. Maybe 10.


do you think he would be facing 37 years for doing the same to a motorist?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:57 am to
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This guy deserves every bit of the 37 years but I doubt he will end up getting it


Come the frick on.

There are child rapists that don't get close to that. 37 years for inflicting minor injuries on a guy is ridiculous. He isn't a repeat offender of anything, and until this, was a very respected member of the community.

Yes it could have been worse, but it wasn't. He got lucky.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:18 am to
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I didn't say what he was doing was illegal. I said he was being a douchebag. And he was.

it was his first time out on a bike since he was a little kid. if anything you could say he's not used to being on the road but he did nothing wrong.

the word douche gets used in stupid ways on this board.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:20 am to
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No. What's dangerous is riding a toy down a road occupied by vehicles that weigh exponentially more, who travel at a much higher rate and expect the world to revolve around your slow arse.



he's riding in a NATIONAL PARK at 10AM ON A SATURDAY MORNING where the max speed is 40mph.

your ignorance is showing.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:21 am to
I'll say this, cyclists on most roads bother me as well as a driver, but this is the Natchez Trace. That's basically what it's for.

Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:21 am to
Guy deserves like 6months-year.

frick outta here with 37 years bullshite.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:21 am to
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the max speed is 40mph.


how fast was the cyclist going? 15-20 tops? how is this safe again?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:23 am to
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37 years for inflicting minor injuries on a guy is ridiculous. He isn't a repeat offender of anything, and until this, was a very respected member of the community.


well he should have thought about that before he INTENTIONALLY ASSAULTED HIM WITH A DEADLY WEAPON, RAN AND HID, DESTROYED EVIDENCE AND LIED TO THE FEDS.

sorry, he deserves to go away for a very long time.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:25 am to
It's not safe. Driver's don't pay enough attention to the road for it to be safe. It is a risk to ride a bike on a busy road.

No one argues otherwise.

Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:25 am to
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how fast was the cyclist going? 15-20 tops? how is this safe again?


well there's this



and this

This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:26 am
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:26 am to
If he'e just been honest about what happened he may have only gotten a few years.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:27 am to
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If he'e just been honest about what happened he may have only gotten a few years.

if he had stopped after hitting him he probably wouldn't even have been charged at all, even with the video evidence.

he could have simply claimed he panicked because he thought a car was coming or some other bullshite story and i doubt he would have even gotten a citation.

why do people think its ok to hit-and-run?? OH YEAH BECAUSE HE'S AN a-hole WHO'S BEEN TARGETING CYCLISTS. More evidence will come out, I know everyone involved here and this is not going to end well for this serial cyclist-rager.

he showed his arse. he showed his true motivations here.

he didn't even come up with a valid reason for being out on the trace at 10am on a saturday morning. just claimed he went to 'enjoy the park'. right.

play stupid games, win 37 years in the federal pen.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:31 am
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:32 am to
How is this a federal thing? Because of it being on a DOI road?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:32 am to
there are photos above, just scroll up.

speeding tickets on the trace are like $500. they don't play with people abusing national parks and breaking laws.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:34 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:34 am to
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if he had stopped after hitting him he probably wouldn't even have been charged at all, even with the video evidence.

he could have simply claimed he panicked because he thought a car was coming or some other bullshite story and i doubt he would have even gotten a citation.

why do people think its ok to hit-and-run?? OH YEAH BECAUSE HE'S AN a-hole WHO'S BEEN TARGETING CYCLISTS. More evidence will come out, I know everyone involved here and this is not going to end well for this serial cyclist-rager.

he showed his arse. he showed his true motivations here.

he didn't even come up with a valid reason for being out on the trace at 10am on a saturday morning. just claimed he went to 'enjoy the park'. right.

play stupid games, win 37 years in the federal pen.


Really not much to argue with here, and I'm not even a fan of cyclists usually. The driver is completely in the wrong on this one.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:36 am to
I assume you drive vehicles when you aren't cycling right? You have probably seen plenty of automobile accidents correct? In most cases somebody broke a traffic law to cause the wreck...just because there are signs doesn't really make it much safer b/c cars are still allowed to travel at 40 mph (probably going 5-10 mph faster and cyclists are travelling anywhere from 5-maybe 20 mph. There will be accidents. The guy was a POS for leaving the scene but it happens all the time with automobiles and they aren't facing 37 years even if they kill someone.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:38 am to
i've put tens of thousands of miles on my bike on the trace.

cyclists are like golfers; we go out at 6-7am on a saturday, and 95% of them are OFF the trace entirely by noon.

i've driven 50 miles on the trace and maybe seen 2 cars before. its generally only busy in the afternoons and of course, the fall when all the leaves are changing colors.

at least the north end of the trace where i live. can't speak to the rest of the road.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:38 am to
the 37 years is for everything he did after the accident

and the chances that he gets the full 37 years is almost zero
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94730 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:41 am to
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The guy was a POS for leaving the scene but it happens all the time with automobiles and they aren't facing 37 years even if they kill someone


dude, you are being a thicky whale omelet.

1. it wasn't an accident.
2. he hit and ran
3. he destroyed evidence after he deliberately assaulted the cyclist with a deadly weapon.
4. he lied to investigators.

homeboy is going away for a long time. this wasn't someone who accidently bumped into another car and fled to avoid the insurance hit..this was a carefully planned attack.
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