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re: NASA: Humans will prove we are not alone in the universe within 20 years.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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It's because the fricking nerds have taken over. NASA used to be run by badasses who flew fighter jets and slayed massive amounts of pussy. They didn't give a shite if it was dangerous. They new how much trim being able to say they walked on the moon would get them. Now NASA is full of a bunch of Fedora wearing losers who get a hard on when some robot snaps a few pictures of the Martian desert.
Not the reason whatsoever. There are plenty of people out there that would risk their lives building a moon base or going to Mars. It's that we became a bunch of short termed thinking assholes that we use bullshite excuses to delay what we should have done by now. Any politician that talks about going back to the Moon or going to Mars is laughed out the building, while the other politicians claim to have their priorities in order for the long term: ie 4years.
It's fricking pathetic we haven't been back to the Moon since 1972. Honestly if 5 years from now on July 21 2019 rolls around and it's been 50 years since the anniversary of the first Moon Landing, that has to be the most embarrassing day in American history that we haven't done shite since then but play with our dicks, and spend way, way more money on the worthless War on Drugs and Terror than we would have been progressing building a Moon Base and going to Mars. I'm sure our descendants 100 years from now are going to look at 1972 through whenever we finally go back to the Moon as simply embarrassing and we're going to be the butt of ridicule going after something as minor as terrorism and drugs compared to the grand scheme of things.
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:21 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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So pretty much nothing will change?
I'm just saying they'll turn it up to 11
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:23 pm to OMLandshark
It bothers me that they focus searches on planets only in an extremely narrow band that would be habitable for us. I agree there are certain practicalities in finding worlds that we could migrate to, but it is the height of arrogance to believe that any alien race or life has to breath oxygen and live in what we consider a temperate climate.
We will probably pass up the first signs of extra-terrestrial life because we won't recognize it as life through spectral analysis from a hundred light years away.
We will probably pass up the first signs of extra-terrestrial life because we won't recognize it as life through spectral analysis from a hundred light years away.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:24 pm to Freauxzen
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Knock yourselves out with the fermi paradox. Long read:
I don't see why that is mind blowing. Everyone knows that we as a species can't last forever. Change is inevitable, and eventually the Earthly or (hopefully) universal environment will become too inhospitable for us.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:25 pm to jchamil
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I don't see how they can really tell the composition of some atmosphere light years away by looking at it with a telescope. I get that they think they can in theory, but I don't really see how that could ever be proven
Probably the same way they can tell us the composition of the stars light years away.
Each element emits a certain wavelength of radiation when excited. By measuring the radiation we can tell what elements are present.
Simplified answer.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:26 pm to GRTiger
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So, you are complaining that a religious person would want definitive proof that they exist before they believed it?
I'm just saying that these are the same people that don't believe in evolution. A frog would literally need to evolve into a human right before their eyes to believe it. Despite how much proof we have of aliens, I doubt that some of these wackos would believe it until the second they arrived on Earth and saw them with their own eyes.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:26 pm to TigerFanatic99
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It bothers me that they focus searches on planets only in an extremely narrow band that would be habitable for us. I agree there are certain practicalities in finding worlds that we could migrate to, but it is the height of arrogance to believe that any alien race or life has to breath oxygen and live in what we consider a temperate climate.
The only thing I have to say to that is "Ya gotta start somewhere"
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:29 pm to Wolfgang Wolfhausen
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I'll be the first to admit that Carl Sagan is infinitely smarter than I will ever be, but am I the only idiot here that thinks that was a terrible idea? I don't want us to be discovered until we can at least fight back, whatever is out there might be a whole lot like us.
Yeah, but if they find the Voyager probes, either we'll be extinct, we will have already become ridiculously advanced, or they would already know that we're here on Earth. The aliens just aren't going to run into the Voyagers and miss our radio signals. The Voyager probably at worst could crash on a planet millions of years from now and some life there discovers our work.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:30 pm to OMLandshark
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we haven't done shite since then but play with our dicks,
I'm with you on the war on drugs shite though.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:31 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, but if they find the Voyager probes, either we'll be extinct, we will have already become ridiculously advanced, or they would already know that we're here on Earth. The Voyager probably at worst could crash on a planet millions of years from now and some life there discovers our work.
I hate to say it, but we'll be long extinct by the time Voyager "hits" anything in deep space if it ever does.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:33 pm to Baers Foot
Here's what Stanley Kubrick and many scientists thought would be in space by the time that station was completed:
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:36 pm to Baers Foot
The ISS is fricking lame. We can't even get to it. Seriously, build a moon base, send some people to Mars.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:37 pm to OMLandshark
So a film director and a bunch of unnamed scientists predicted that'd be done by now? So where's my Back to the Future hoverboard and future shoes?
Can't say what we'd have if we had the same passion about science and space that we had in the 1950s up until today, but we haven't only been holding our dicks. That's the only part I disagreed with.
Can't say what we'd have if we had the same passion about science and space that we had in the 1950s up until today, but we haven't only been holding our dicks. That's the only part I disagreed with.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:38 pm to OMLandshark
I am a Christian. I have long believed that the creator of the universe created other life forms that have existed throughout the universe. The scriptures in the Torah and the Old and New Testaments just define man kinds unique relationship with him. We struggle to get that right and there was probably little reason for him to reveal his other heavenly creations to man except the Spiritual beings.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:41 pm to Baers Foot
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So a film director and a bunch of unnamed scientists predicted that'd be done by now? So where's my Back to the Future hoverboard and future shoes?
They were landing on the Moon in 2 years time. I think they had too much faith that humanity would continue to dream and go out to the stars, rather than simply pussing out with petty bullshite. If we did continue our space program at the same rate as it was when Kubrick made the film, that space station is really not all that ridiculous and could have been a feasible alternate future.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:45 pm to Salmon
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specifically to see how it would affect religions
It's common knowledge that God lit the fuse that set off the Big Bang.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:49 pm to Salmon
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specifically to see how it would affect religions
Some religions were originally based off of aliens. Do you even Ancient Aliens, bro?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:53 pm to OMLandshark
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Actually, Sagan did the absolute opposite of that. He put maps to our planet in the Voyager probes, as well as numerous sounds and music from our planet, as well as algorithms that an advance species most certainly already discovered.
Sagan was a stud. Hawking is a semi hack and thief that would not be nearly as "respected" as he is if it weren't for his physical misfortune. I know that sounds harsh but I believe it to be true.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:53 pm to OMLandshark
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I think they had too much faith that humanity would continue to dream and go out to the stars, rather than simply pussing out with petty bullshite.
Time had an article several years ago about what the space program would be like if we (mankind)had focused on developing the space programs instead of the Cold War after WW2. If I remember correctly, the conclusion was that we'd already be on Mars and would be looking to explore the moons of Jupiter now.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:00 pm to Freauxzen
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