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re: Mountain lion spotted in North Alabama... to believe or not... UPDATE - Fake

Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:12 am to
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:12 am to
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:19 am to
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could have been you!



It was way too quick to grab a picture. Gone before I could get my phone out of my pocket.

I swear its tail seemed 5 feet long.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 10:24 am
Posted by footswitch
Meridianville, Alabama
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:22 am to
I have absolutely put eyes on a mountain lion in southern Tennessee.
All the proof I need. Not far from Jackson County, Alabama.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:23 am to
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I swear its tail seemed 5 feet long.





lots of bobcats where I live, there's one particularly big one out at the lake where I keep my boat, that dude is not scared of animals that walk on two legs and he's as big as my German Shepherd, which is about 145 lbs., might need one of our OT baws to come pick him up and take him to Sonic, he keeps coming round closer and closer
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8967 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:25 am to
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he's as big as my German Shepherd, which is about 145 lbs.


That's a big bobcat.
Posted by BhamBlazeDog
Birmingham
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:27 am to
Where exactly is North Alabama? I'm about 98% positive I saw one in Pickens County 8-9 years ago.
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:29 am to
I've never seen one in Alabama, but all the conditions in the NE part of the state seem to be ideal for lions. There are documented cats in East TN & multiple locations in Arkansas. Couple of questions I can't shake though:

1. Why are most fish & game departments in the southeast opposed to the idea?

2. There are so many game cams throughout the southeast - why isn't there more photo/video proof?


They're very solitary creatures and are incredibly elusive in environments with higher visibility than old growth forests across the SE. Takes days to tree one in the deserts of Arizona. Your chances of taking one on a sight & stalk hunt are virtually zero.

Count me as a #believer but there are real objections that are fair.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:29 am to
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bobcat


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which is about 145 lbs






Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92366 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:30 am to
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That's a big bobcat.



he was in the road as I was leaving the marina the other day and I eased up to him up, cracked the window about in inch and he just stared at me like "just open it about another two inches bitch, I'll take that truck from you!"
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:30 am to
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lots of bobcats where I live, there's one particularly big one out at the lake where I keep my boat, that dude is not scared of animals that walk on two legs and he's as big as my German Shepherd, which is about 145 lbs., might need one of our OT baws to come pick him up and take him to Sonic, he keeps coming round closer and closer



You should take this mature male out if he's in an area with decent human population density.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:32 am to
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Where exactly is North Alabama?


It's in the north part of the State of Alabama in the United States of America.














The picture says the road and city it was supposedly spotted near. But it's fake. Was taken in Nevada.


Pickens would be Central Alabama, FWIW.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 10:36 am
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:33 am to
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Where exactly is North Alabama? I'm about 98% positive I saw one in Pickens County 8-9 years ago.



Not Pickens County

Not that you didn't see one there, that's just not North AL
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92366 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:35 am to
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You should take this mature male out if he's in an area with decent human population density.



I really think that this needs to be done, he's not scared of humans and there's a lot of feeding opportunity around that marina
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:42 am to
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I really think that this needs to be done, he's not scared of humans and there's a lot of feeding opportunity around that marina



Older toms can also edge out competitors in the gene pool so at some point the best move from a conservation standpoint is to let the younger males take over.

Not to mention the potential threat a 100+ lb bobcat represents to family pets, small children, etc.

If that feller is 100+ lbs he'll be a handsome trophy.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:43 am to
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How many attacks have there been documented in AL or TN? If they were here, someone would have been attacked by now.

They are not here.



There are black bears all through out the state.

I don't think I've ever heard of a black bear attacking a human.

Are they not here either?
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4340 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:45 am to
Pretty sure that’s an Aspen tree in the foreground based off the bark. Pretty sure there are no Aspens in Alabama. It’s a hoax.
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:48 am to
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There are black bears all through out the state.

I don't think I've ever heard of a black bear attacking a human.

Are they not here either?


People see a lot of deer in high density areas and assume all animals follow the same pattern.

Apex predators have a very low density population per square acre (and per square mile for that matter). It's very unlikely to see them in areas with high human populations.

Factor in how, by design, elusive big cats are, and it's no surprise that they fly under the radar of even seasoned outdoorsmen.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92366 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:50 am to
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If that feller is 100+ lbs he'll be a handsome trophy.



he's a good looking bobcat, doesn't look old but I'm estimating of course
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:53 am to
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The largest bobcat accurately measured on record weighed 22.2 kg (49 lb), although unverified reports have them reaching 27 kg (60 lb)



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Adult males can range in weight from 6.4–18.3 kg (14–40 lb), with an average of 9.6 kg (21 lb); females at 4–15.3 kg (8.8–33.7 lb), with an average of 6.8 kg (15 lb).


Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92366 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:57 am to
not going to engage in the typical petty OT pissing contest, I'm estimating his size, he is physically as big as my German Shepherd, I would ask him how much he weighs but I'm not fluent in bobcat, he is a huge cat
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