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Most interesting pre-1900 serial killer?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:21 pm
Everyone knows the classics of the 20th century, but which sicko of the pre-1900s most interests you?
I’ll start:
Gilles de Rais
Gilles de Rais
I’ll start:
Gilles de Rais
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Gilles de Rais (date of birth unknown, not earlier than 1405 – 26 October 1440),[1] Baron de Rais (French: [d? ??]), was a knight and lord from Brittany, Anjou and Poitou,[2] a leader in the French army, and a companion-in-arms of Joan of Arc. He is best known for his reputation and later conviction as a confessed serial killer of children.
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In his 1971 biography of Rais, Jean Benedetti tells how the children who fell into Rais' hands were put to death: [The boy] was pampered and dressed in better clothes than he had ever known. The evening began with a large meal and heavy drinking, particularly hippocras, which acted as a stimulant. The boy was then taken to an upper room to which only Gilles and his immediate circle were admitted. There he was confronted with the true nature of his situation. The shock thus produced on the boy was an initial source of pleasure for Gilles.[32]
Gilles de Rais
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:23 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Must have been so easy to murder back then.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:26 pm to Gifman
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Must have been so easy to murder back then.
scary thought
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:27 pm to Gifman
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Must have been so easy to murder back then.
No chance in hell a magistrate would take a child’s word, especially a peasant child’s word, over a noble man’s word.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:27 pm to UndercoverBryologist
The Chicago World's Fair was 1893-4 so Holmes qualifies for this thread
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:29 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Jack the Ripper?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:36 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Christman Gennippertinga
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:42 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Sawney Beane and family but there’s not a ton of evidence that they existed
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:42 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Here’s one that deserved a more painful death.
Amelia
AMELIA DYER 1836-1896
“Could the worst serial killer in British history really have been an unassuming nurse called Amelia Dyer? The evidence certainly suggests it, with the diabolical Dyer even declaring herself to be an "angel-maker". In other words, a murderer of innocents. Her victims were infants born to penniless Victorian mothers who - due to social stigma or simple poverty - were forced to give their offspring to "baby farmers" who would take in the children for a fee.
The grim truth was that many baby farmers maximised their profits by simply letting the children die, either from neglect or by repeatedly sedating them with opium syrup. Amelia Dyer was more ruthlessly efficient than that - she casually strangled babies after taking them off their mothers' hands, and dumping the little bodies in the Thames. She's estimated to have killed literally hundreds of infants before she finally hanged for her horrific crimes.”
Amelia
AMELIA DYER 1836-1896
“Could the worst serial killer in British history really have been an unassuming nurse called Amelia Dyer? The evidence certainly suggests it, with the diabolical Dyer even declaring herself to be an "angel-maker". In other words, a murderer of innocents. Her victims were infants born to penniless Victorian mothers who - due to social stigma or simple poverty - were forced to give their offspring to "baby farmers" who would take in the children for a fee.
The grim truth was that many baby farmers maximised their profits by simply letting the children die, either from neglect or by repeatedly sedating them with opium syrup. Amelia Dyer was more ruthlessly efficient than that - she casually strangled babies after taking them off their mothers' hands, and dumping the little bodies in the Thames. She's estimated to have killed literally hundreds of infants before she finally hanged for her horrific crimes.”
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:48 pm to sledgehammer
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AMELIA DYER 1836-1896
“Could the worst serial killer in British history really have been an unassuming nurse called Amelia Dyer? The evidence certainly suggests it, with the diabolical Dyer even declaring herself to be an "angel-maker". In other words, a murderer of innocents. Her victims were infants born to penniless Victorian mothers who - due to social stigma or simple poverty - were forced to give their offspring to "baby farmers" who would take in the children for a fee.
The grim truth was that many baby farmers maximised their profits by simply letting the children die, either from neglect or by repeatedly sedating them with opium syrup. Amelia Dyer was more ruthlessly efficient than that - she casually strangled babies after taking them off their mothers' hands, and dumping the little bodies in the Thames. She's estimated to have killed literally hundreds of infants before she finally hanged for her horrific crimes.”
Industrial Revolution era serial killers are especially fascinating. Basically, you had this extremely impoverished working class that pretty much had no qualms with immorality in order to survive.
Lots of surplus children born who were, for all practical purposes, worthless to their mothers. (Especially the case of children born to prostitutes.) How best to get rid of them but through infanticide or selling them back into the sex trafficking racket?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:57 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Not pre1900 but early 1900 was the Axeman of New Orleans. Cool with a little local flavor.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:57 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Industrial Revolution era serial killers are especially fascinating.
Check this one out. Burke and Hare
Here’s some guys from that period who murdered people and sold their bodies to the local Scottish university to be dissected by the anatomy professor and his students. The professor went by the rule: don’t ask, don’t tell. As long as he had bodies, he didn’t care.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:00 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Albert Fish. End of thread.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:02 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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He is best known for his reputation and later conviction as a confessed serial killer of children.
You want to hunt adults, ok. We'll manage but this should be tortured repeatedly for years and then torn apart by oxen.
Children. heck man.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:02 pm to Jdiggy
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:05 pm to Jdiggy
That letter he sent the parents is sickening.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:14 pm to sledgehammer
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That letter he sent the parents is sickening.
That’s the kind of letter that ought to get you castrated in prison...but unfortunately, I think Fish would have enjoyed it.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:21 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Christman Genipperteinga. He tallied 964 scalps.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:31 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Boone Helm Wiki
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Levi Boone Helm (January 28, 1828 – January 14, 1864) was an American mountain man, Old West gunfighter and serial killer known as the Kentucky Cannibal. Helm gained his nickname for his opportunistic and unrepentant proclivity for consuming human flesh, usually in survival situations, though instances of killing people for their meat unprovoked were documented.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:32 pm to Jdiggy
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Albert Fish. End of thread.
Ever listen to the Timesuck podcast episode about that whackadoo?
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