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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE

Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:12 pm to
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How to sinking a barge in Bayou Chene prevent backwater flooding?

I don't understand this, either. Can someone please fill me in. Use small words, too, because I'm kinda stupid.

I have this mental picture of a barge sitting at the bottom of the channel with water just going over it. Is that picture wrong? Is the barge that much taller than the depth of the channel that it'll essentially just be a dam?
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 12:16 pm
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

essentially just be a dam
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1862 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

I have this mental picture of a barge sitting at the bottom of the channel with water just going over it. Is that picture wrong? Is the barge that much taller than the depth of the channel that it'll essentially just be a dam?


Yes the barge sits on the bottom and they might pile up limestone or concrete on top of it as well. It is definitely a dam that should not allow water over the top. Those channels are usually pretty shallow in places, sometimes less than 5 or 6 feet. I just checked my Garmin chartplotter software and it says the bayou chene at this point is "dredged to 6 feet", so there it is. Should be about 6' in depth, no problem for that barge to dam up.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:20 pm to
Okay, then I was severely overestimating the depth of the channel. Thanks, guys.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14837 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:23 pm to
This is from last time but it should be pretty much the same this time around.


You're right that's it basically just a dam that prevents backwater flooding of the area east of Morgan City.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

I don't understand this, either. Can someone please fill me in. Use small words, too, because I'm kinda stupid.

I have this mental picture of a barge sitting at the bottom of the channel with water just going over it. Is that picture wrong? Is the barge that much taller than the depth of the channel that it'll essentially just be a dam?



They drive sheet pile on the sides and around the barge after they sink it

Here are some pictures from 2011 and 2016 when they did it








Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:26 pm to
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Okay, then I was severely overestimating the depth of the channel. Thanks, guys.



The barge they are using is 20' deep
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45583 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 3:54 pm to
LINK

Opening has been delayed until June 6th. Apparently there are complications with the river forecast.



June 6th is just as the levels start to creep back up again.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Teddy1388
I-10
Member since Aug 2017
740 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 3:58 pm to
Fa why?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:01 pm to
Why?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28275 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:01 pm to
Someone couldn't get their cattle out in time and another farmer needed extra time to haul out his crop.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45583 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:02 pm to
The article doesn't say. It's very weird.
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
1495 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:10 pm to
Maybe the COE is stalling hoping to not have to open the spillway
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41122 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

UPDATE: The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers announced Thursday it has delayed the slow opening of the Morganza Spillway to Thursday, June 6 with a full opening June 9. The Corps said the delay is due to complications related to the river forecast.


LINK
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 4:13 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45583 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:13 pm to
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UPDATE: The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers announced Thursday it has delayed the slow opening of the Morganza Spillway to Thursday, June 6 with a full opening June 9. The Corps said the delay is due to complications related to the river forecast.


LINK
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45583 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13384 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:16 pm to


date seems to coincide with river getting above 44' in BR

EDIT:


also date it crests at Red River Landing
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
52817 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:17 pm to
By LSU
Water is getting pretty high outchea



This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 4:19 pm
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1862 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:17 pm to
Facebook Video link to St. Mary Levee District

animated graphic that shows where the barge is located in Bayou Chene and what are will be impacted (benefit) from stopping the water at that point.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28275 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 4:19 pm to


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By LSU
Water is getting pretty high outchea


Not one comment about your photo and the seepage taking place on the outside of the levee? U c dat dere black strip linin da rode dat be called seepage.
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