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re: More tyranny: Ochsner will make unvaccinated spouses of employees pay $200 per month
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:13 am to Odysseus32
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:13 am to Odysseus32
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I think the biggest gripe from people who see this are what about people who are overweight/obese?
Things are being done to encourage healthier living/fitness levels though. A number of insurance plans offer discounts, incentives or subsidies to cover healthier behavior / fitness levels.
A lot of it has to do with how much the employer cares about their insurance plan. My wife's last company's plan offered the following
* Subsidy for gym membership costs
* $25/m discount for insurance for any person who participates in the free wellness program which required diagnostic testing, nutritional classes and fitness/activity logging
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Why not an extra $100 a month for someone that doesn't exercise 3 times a week?
Most insurers seem to be leaning towards "healthy discounts" instead of "unhealthy charges" for fitness.
If their covered insurance costs are reduced, the discounts pay for themselves. I'd guess all else equal people in better health/fitness perform better. I know when I'm eating/working out, I have more energy/focus at least
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 11:14 am
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:16 am to grizzlylongcut
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What's free market about forcing somebody to put something in their body?
It's not forcing someone to put something in their body..
It's simply a job requirement by a private employer who doesn't want to take on unnecessary risk
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:16 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Galactic Inquisitor
Whatever happened to the Republican fondness of free market capitalism.?
point to the free market, please.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:18 am to frequent flyer
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Oschner is probably going to lose some employees from this kind of behavior.
That's the beauty of the free market.. Employees will have opportunities to go elsewhere. Travel nurses are being paid 10k per week at some hospitals
Bunch of democrats on this board shouting about unions and shite
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:22 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Private companies can do whatever they want right? Isn’t that one of the cornerstones of Republicans values?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:23 am to TaderSalad
Don’t try to compare this to race or religion or any of that, not even remotely the same
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:37 am to GenesChin
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* Subsidy for gym membership costs
* $25/m discount for insurance for any person who participates in the free wellness program which required diagnostic testing, nutritional classes and fitness/activity logging
All of those requirements are incredibly easy to meet and can be done without changing your lifestyle or actually getting more fit. In other words they are a joke. If they were serious they would require everyone to meet a certain required BMI.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:38 am to LSUFanHouston
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Well we used to have that until Obama said we could not.
Aaaaand you conveniently avoid the fact that the ACA increased the wellness program cap significantly so discounts are there for good health choices vs penalties for poor ones.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:41 am to dawgfan24348
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Don’t try to compare this to race or religion or any of that, not even remotely the same
What if I'm comparing it to other communicable diseases?
Got a walrus for lover? You gotta pay more now.
Covid is really exposing the fascist in society. Good to know.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:43 am to lsu13lsu
quote:Who do you think has been paying them to treat Covid patients for free? If you guessed the Government, you are correct. The cost of health care is going up and it's not due to Covid. It's due to people not seeking treatment and putting off procedures for the last year and a half due to the lockdown.
Is Oschner not paid anything by the government?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:48 am to Harry Caray
The vaccine is not free. They are $12-$18 per person that is paid for by the government. The government gets its money from all working people. They do not make it, and what they "print" is funded by money from private banks/institutions that are paid back with interest. Take a look at your check stub, no the deposit record and see how munch money is stolen from you as "Federal Tax, Medicaid, Medicare, etc."
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:51 pm to TaderSalad
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Covid is really exposing the fascist in society
Private companies doing what they want isn’t fascism
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:57 pm to dawgfan24348
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Private companies doing what they want isn’t fascism
Swing and a miss... again.
Was talking about you (and many other supporting these measures)
Posted on 10/1/21 at 1:43 pm to Obtuse1
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Aaaaand you conveniently avoid the fact that the ACA increased the wellness program cap significantly so discounts are there for good health choices vs penalties for poor ones.
Huh.
I am on my wife's insurance which is through the Office of Group Benefits. In other words... a HUGE group.
They offer $10/month off premium for the employee only (not for spouse or kids) if the employee does an annual checkup.
You can also get a gym membership for $25/month which considering a lot of gyms are that cheap or cheaper... not much of a deal.
That's it.
So much for a wellness program.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 1:46 pm to TDTOM
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Lots of folks at the hospital are administrative. They can work in a lot of different sectors.
Correct.
They are also the least important when it comes to providing care.
So if John from accounting leaves to go to another place of employment that doesn't require it... does that really impact the work the nurses do on the 5th floor?
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