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Moments of "divine" intervention?
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:44 pm
How many of you would say you've had crazy things happen in life that could only be explained by something otherworldly?
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
My stomach was hurting and I just let out an epic fart that was only made possible through the love and grace of Jesus Christ.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:47 pm to boosiebadazz
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My stomach was hurting and I just let out an epic fart that was only made possible through the love and grace of Jesus Christ
Should have held it in for hot tub Fridays.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
I think she would have liked that.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:49 pm to tiggerthetooth
If you're a devout believer in God, everything is a product of divine intervention. "Everything happens for a reason"
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:50 pm to rmnldr
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If you're a devout believer in God, everything is a product of divine intervention. "Everything happens for a reason"
But that's not really what I mean. I understand what you're saying though as I've been around it a lot.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:52 pm to rmnldr
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If you're a devout believer in God, everything is a product of divine intervention. "Everything happens for a reason"
I believe in God, but do not believe that He actively manipulates every action.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:55 pm to High C
Yep. I get what you mean. A lot of times in my life I run into situations where something happens at a precise time and place that couldn't have happened without a specific sequence of events that preceded it and I just think that it had to have been planned. Sometimes it's comforting to know that there could be some structure in what seems like a constantly random world.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:58 pm to rmnldr
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If you're a devout believer in God, everything is a product of divine intervention. "Everything happens for a reason"
What verse is that from?
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:59 pm to Hot Carl
Just a saying
ETA: Let me expand on my first comment in this thread.
When I say that everything is a product of divine intervention it doesn't mean that everything is planned. Free will exists for better and for worse and even in the presence of a creator, everything being controlled/micromanaged seems implausible. However, I do think that if you do believe in God, divine intervention should be believed as something of normalcy.
ETA: Let me expand on my first comment in this thread.
When I say that everything is a product of divine intervention it doesn't mean that everything is planned. Free will exists for better and for worse and even in the presence of a creator, everything being controlled/micromanaged seems implausible. However, I do think that if you do believe in God, divine intervention should be believed as something of normalcy.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:01 pm to High C
I've always thought it was selfish to pray for yourself and neglecting to pray for others. Too many people do that, I think.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:05 pm to rmnldr
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Sometimes it's comforting to know that there could be some structure in what seems like a constantly random world.
Then you begin encroaching on our free will. And what's the point in any of this if all our decisions are pre- determined. I still find it fascinating how much Calvinism took off.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:05 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:05 pm to Hot Carl
quote:quote:What verse is that from?
"Everything happens for a reason"
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:08 pm to tiggerthetooth
To answer the OP directly, I've had a few financial issues that played out to my advantage in ways that I couldn't really explain.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:08 pm to Kafka
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:09 pm to Hot Carl
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Then you begin encroaching on our free will. And what's the point in any of this if all our decisions are pre- determined. I still find it fascinating how much Calvinism took off.
Yep. I do think people have free will. I do also think, however, that there are obvious signs and dabblings of divine intervention in everyone's lives and they shift the courses of our lives in some way, shape, or form. It may not be obvious but I do think it's there.
ETA: not to mention if you believe that God/a creator made the universe as we know it, you'd kind of have to agree that everything is a product of divine intervention.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:13 pm to rmnldr
I am not being a dick--I have always enjoyed discussing free-will vs determinism. It's a hard topic to get a good grasp on. Intellectually, I don't think I believe in divine intervention--besides the free will issue, it would just seem to be too arbitrary to make any sense. Yet, every time my kids go on a trip, I pray for their safe deliverance.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:14 pm to tiggerthetooth
I had to fart during a blowjob, then her mother called her, so I always like to thank god for having my back on that one.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:21 pm to Hot Carl
Yep. I understand. I didn't think you were being a dick. I also find it very interesting.
I think, as a Christian, to understand the idea of divine intervention/fate/destiny, I have to remember that God created man in his image. If we follow that idea, we get a better grasp on what God's actions are and what he does. It means he struggles with the same things that we humans do and can't always have everything in control. I know it's very improper to question the power of God, but having doubts in your belief is also a part of strengthening it in my opinion.
I think, as a Christian, to understand the idea of divine intervention/fate/destiny, I have to remember that God created man in his image. If we follow that idea, we get a better grasp on what God's actions are and what he does. It means he struggles with the same things that we humans do and can't always have everything in control. I know it's very improper to question the power of God, but having doubts in your belief is also a part of strengthening it in my opinion.
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