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re: Minka Kelly's abortion

Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:06 pm to
That would be a cool name for a band.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:07 pm to
Who cares

Who the baby

And didn’t answer my question
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:08 pm to
The baby doesn't exist. It was aborted. It doesn't care.

You fricking dense mate?
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 10:09 pm
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:10 pm to
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False choice


Bull shite. I have no problem with welfare in theory, but it's obvious a government can't make people responsible. People typically get out of poverty when they're not offered this stuff for life. If a woman loves her kid, she'll bust her arse to provide a life for him. If she doesn't, she won't have them for economic reasons anymore.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:11 pm to
I can almost guarantee I’m more pro-choice than you. But folks who can afford a child but abort it irk me.

And yeah I’m pretty dense right now
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 10:12 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:12 pm to
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I can almost guarantee I’m more pro-choice than you. But folks who can afford a child but abort it irks me.


Congrats?

Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:12 pm to
Was it YOUR baby?
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:14 pm to
Damn really thought we could discuss the topic a little more. That’s cool though.

You’re welcome?
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:16 pm to
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Bull shite. I have no problem with welfare in theory, but it's obvious a government can't make people responsible. People typically get out of poverty when they're not offered this stuff for life. If a woman loves her kid, she'll bust her arse to provide a life for him. If she doesn't, she won't have them for economic reasons anymore.


I agree with you that the government can’t make people act responsibly. But let’s say we outlawed abortion tomorrow. What do we do with the millions of unwanted kids that would have otherwise been aborted? Adoption doesn’t touch the problem. The answer is a massive expansion of the foster care, Medicaid, and government-run orphanage system.

You down with paying for it all? I’m not. Let the poors self-select to kill their unwanted kids if they want to.
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 10:19 pm
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:20 pm to
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I agree with you that the government can’t make people act responsibly. But let’s say we outlawed abortion tomorrow. What do we do with the millions of unwanted kids that would have otherwise been aborted? Adoption doesn’t touch the problemZ the answer is a massive expansion of the foster care, Medicaid, and government-run orphanage system.


My guess is it comes down to you don't really believe it's a human life. I say that because you can't put a price on millions of human lives. I get where you're coming from, I just have a hard time accepting that we should allow killing human lives for economic gain. I understand this and it's a difference in opinion I can accept.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:22 pm to
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but also for this unborn fetus.



Kubrick said it best:

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The dead know only one thing, it is better to be alive
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:23 pm to
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Or how about mass murdering the children of poor people who can't afford to take care of them, since it's all about the children.


I’m completely good with first trimester, government funded abortions for people on welfare/Medicaid.

Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:23 pm to
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I just have a hard time accepting that we should allow killing human lives for economic gain.


So are you for increasing the teeth of the tort system? Companies, for example, put a price on human lives every single day in the pursuit of economic gain.
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:24 pm to
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When I was younger I had an abortion. It was the smartest decision I could’ve made for myself and my boyfriend at the time.


Should’ve just left it there. No reason to try and justify killing the fetus if you don’t actually believe anything is wrong with it.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:25 pm to
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Killing her baby growing inside her was smart for the baby. What a count.


How many babies from unwanted pregnancies have you adopted and cared for? I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:27 pm to
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So are you for increasing the teeth of the tort system? Companies, for example, put a price on human lives every single day in the pursuit of economic gain.


I'm not familiar enough with tort law to make an opinion on that. However, in an effort to answer you question, I'm typically in favor of allowing two consenting parties to make any kind of agreement they would like. I'm very libertarian, my problem with abortion is the fetus isn't a consenting party.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:28 pm to
Welp this thread is going about like I expected. Carry on.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:28 pm to
Nice straw man you have there
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:29 pm to
Dynamite drop in Jim
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:29 pm to
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Nice straw man you have there


Yea that was pretty pathetic on his part
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