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Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:48 pm to LNCHBOX
So now you’re pro student loans? What about the food board etc? You were against people going to college earlier when they couldn’t afford it.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:48 pm to fareplay
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It’s refreshing to see someone who has more than single digit brain cells here
What will be the industry response to inefficiently high wages?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
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So you’re advocating for people to take out MORE student loans that drive up the cost of college and create a massive hole of debt that can’t be discharged in bankruptcy?
If a student loan is the only way you can make it happen, sure. And why should I be concerned that the borrow goes bankrupt? Not making much of a case that this hypothetical person isn't worthless.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:49 pm to SwampyWaters
only Cali, so I'm good with it so far.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
How do we evaluate if it’s efficient or not? If there is no negative growth and spending is same, what’s the issue?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:49 pm to fareplay
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So now you’re pro student loans?
Not everyone has rich parents or marries a doctor.
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? You were against people going to college earlier when they couldn’t afford it.
Link?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:50 pm to fareplay
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So now you’re pro student loans?
Poor people get grants.
They dont pay for education or training.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:50 pm to LNCHBOX
So continuing this thought process of worthless, you’re suggesting all dumb people should be forever poor and struggle on a daily basis with no chance of recovery? That’s the society you want?
Say hi to increased crime rates and drug use
Say hi to increased crime rates and drug use
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:50 pm to LNCHBOX
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If a student loan is the only way you can make it happen, sure. And why should I be concerned that the borrow goes bankrupt? Not making much of a case that this hypothetical person isn't worthless.
Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck (even those making more than minimum wage) and can easily be bankrupted by a medical issue.
You don’t understand how that’s a realistic possibility for someone?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:51 pm to fareplay
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How do we evaluate if it’s efficient or not?
You fricking lied about having a degree in econ.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:51 pm to BluegrassBelle
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What do you suggest as the alternative that will provide a livable wage for folks while also not folding small businesses?
Why do all wages have to be livable? Most of us have had plenty of jobs for extra money at various points in our lifetimes. Under no circumstances did they constitute livable wages. What changed?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
My parents made just enough to not be labeled “poor” for grants but not enough to pay for anything for school.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:52 pm to fareplay
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you’re suggesting all dumb people should be forever poor and struggle on a daily basis with no chance of recovery?
An artificially high minimum wage isn't fixing any of that.
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Say hi to increased crime rates and drug use
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:52 pm to fareplay
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Rich people fear mongering again on how the poor will ruin them
Most rich people and everyone below on the ladder have worked at a low level minimum wage job. Most of these people worked their way up to higher wages by means of time, education, promotion, etc. For those that didn't, someone before them, who valued them, did.
Sure minimum wage can't stay flat forever, but the way to achieve a wage increase is not by staying at a minimum wage job and pushing for an increase in minimum wage. No one should want to stay at a minimum wage job for long term, it is a temporary beginning phase of life, for most.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:52 pm to SaintEB
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Are they flipping burgers? Selling snacks? Making a sandwich?
The secretary that makes $20 sits at a computer and listens to podcasts for half of the day. But she is good at her job and is 100% worth $20 an hour. She opted to not get health insurance because the $60 a week that would have been taken out of her budget was too much. She rents a house and pays her own bills but is extremely extremely frugal.
The $30+ guys have a skill but even those that didn't start with a skill started around $25 because nobody wants to bust their arse in the Louisiana heat to even try to learn if you're paying them $10 an hour. You pay them fair pay and they'll stick with you and want to do good at their job. At least with us it's been that way. We've had to fire people, but in 7 years we've never had someone quit because they were unhappy or complained about pay.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:53 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck (even those making more than minimum wage) and can easily be bankrupted by a medical issue.
You don’t understand how that’s a realistic possibility for someone?
Then let's just raise everyone's salary by $100k a year.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:53 pm to SwampyWaters
This will certainly help with that pesky inflation issue we have been having.
Seriously though, who can find anyone that will work for minimum wage? We have a couple small businesses and we got shamed for offering interns $12/hour. This is in TX, not NY or Cali.
Seriously though, who can find anyone that will work for minimum wage? We have a couple small businesses and we got shamed for offering interns $12/hour. This is in TX, not NY or Cali.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:53 pm to LNCHBOX
The goal is to give them a chance to better themselves without forcing 100 hour work week and not being able to.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:53 pm to St Augustine
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Why do all wages have to be livable? Most of us have had plenty of jobs for extra money at various points in our lifetimes. Under no circumstances did they constitute livable wages. What changed?
A few things.
We started requiring college degrees for jobs that simply don’t need them.
Older folks have stayed in positions that workers would move into through promotion because of the increase of cost of living and retirement that has likely been hit by multiple recessions. That’s prevented your usually upward mobility into jobs with livable wages.
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