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re: Millennials are the most pussified generation in the History of the US..

Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:59 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40787 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:59 am to
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Dan Bilzerian


So you are above 30 non-"millennial" and decided to worship Dan Bilizerian


You sound like a tool.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:59 am to
Had not even heard of facebook until I got to college, but apparently I'm a millennial and my generation sucks the hardest for some reasons made up by middle aged/older folks who were just as stupid when they were my peers' age but try to front like they aren't
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:59 am to
younger generation isn't buying into fear tactics - good for them

they're getting screwed by every definition of the word - so I don't criticize them at all
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:59 am to
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If we minded our own business, and then just bombed the frick out of people or countries that messed with us, we would be fine.


Isolationism led to WWI and WWII.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40148 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:00 am to
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Isolationism led to WWI and WWII.


My god what a simple world view you have.
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:01 am to
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My god what a simple world view you have.


Was that statement incorrect?

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40148 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:03 am to
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Was that statement incorrect?


It kind of is, yes. There were hundreds of factors that lead to the outbreak of both WWI and WWII and I find it very hard to attach any meaningful relevance to American "isolationism".
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:04 am to
Does that mean that the generation before Millennials were the worst parents of all time?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66487 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:04 am to
born in 83

I don't identify with what you say I am.

transgeneration checking in
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112573 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:05 am to
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Was that statement incorrect?
Who gives a frick about Europe? If Canada starts forming an army threatening to invade the US, we should take action. Once they forced our hand in WWII, we handled business.
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 11:06 am
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4790 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:10 am to
Just the way the baby boomers raised them. Boomers had everything handed to them and then bitch when "kids" don't want to work hard.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9275 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:13 am to
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Was that statement incorrect?





Yes, it was extremely incorrect. Have you ever taken a history class? I assume you must have, but you either didn't pay attention or your world view has so colored the information you received that it's no longer recognizable.

Correlation does not equal causation. Yes the U.S. was relatively isolationist during WW! and WW2. No those facts had almost nothing to do with either war happening. In fact, we weren't even really isolationist in WW2, we were giving money and supplies to the allies as soon as the war broke out. In WW1 we didn't even have the military presence or know how or opportunity to intervene to prevent the war. It happened in a matter of days, there was no big build up were the US could've intervened even if we had the ability or desire. Really this was the case in both wars. If you made a list of the reasons for both WW's starting, American isolationism would be in the triple digits, if it was on there at all.

As far as Obama being to blame for ISIS, of course he shares some of the blame. But no more than Reagan for his incredibly short sighted operation Operation Cyclone to create the mujahdeen which lead to the Taliban and Al-Quaeda. Or Bush for his incredibly short sighted invasion of Iraq. I'm sure Clinton fricked up somewhere along the line too. The leadership in this country on both sides of the aisle has been ineffective at dealing with the middle east.

Guess what? That's not an indictment on any of them. It's an incredibly complex geo-political region with grudges and factions dating back centuries and a culture far different from our own. The problem is trying to navigate or use those waters to begin with
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 11:17 am
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:16 am to
Personally I'd rather we use our advanced technology to indiscriminately bomb everyone of their city into rubble and limit American troops risking their lives to play by unrealistic rules they won't follow. But what do I know, according to someone I never met I'm a pussy
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 11:17 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74571 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:21 am to
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Isolationism led to WWI and WWII.



I've studied both extensively longer than many here have been alive. And I hate to tell you but this is simply incorrect.

Perhaps an argument could be made that had the US been more engaged with Europe in the mid-30's Hitler could have been stopped before WWII broke out. But I'd still have serious reservations ever making such a claim.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4790 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:22 am to
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80% would be happy to live under an Islamic Caliphate if the alternative was to join the US Military to fight them if needed.


Not wantint to serve in the military equates to being happy living under Islamic rule? Strawman much?

I would love to see polls from the early 60's to see how much different the numbers would be if you substitute Vietnam for ISIS.

There are 75+ million milenials in the US. If you just look at the "already joined" and the "will join" groups that would total more than 4.5mil people, which is more people than have ever been in the US military except for 1943 - 1945 when there were 9mil, 11.6mil, 12mil respectively. How exactly does this prove they are "pussified"?
Posted by cwarr14
up da bayou
Member since Oct 2013
386 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:24 am to
I am a millennial. I bet I could whoop your arse too.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4790 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:31 am to
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Top right is the most telling. So pretty much, if we needed more guys cause we were getting our asses whipped they still wouldn't join. There's absolutely no sense of patriotism in my age group. It's goddamned pathetic.


See my post above. 6% of millenials joining the military would give us the 4th highest number of active military personel in our history. How many people WANTED to join up and go to Vietnam?
LINK

From this site, 9.7% of the the Vietnam generation served. 25% of the people who served were draftees. This means that 7.3% of the people from that generation who served were volunteers. 6% in this poll said they are in the military or will "definitely join" if needed. This shows me that every generation is just about the same.

66% of WWII vets were draftees, clearly 1940s Americans wanted to live under Nazi rule.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:38 am to
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Plenty of blame to go around (including Obama), going back a long time.


This sums up the whole situation over there now.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13107 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Isolationism led to WWI and WWII



Uh, no.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13107 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Isolationism led to WWI and WWII



Uh, no.
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