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re: Millenial homeowners "get real" about their success

Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:11 pm to
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Tuition costs at LSU when I started 20 years ago were about $4,500 per semester. 

Not sure if we went to different LSU's but it wasn't even close to that in the late 90s. Maybe including housing.

It was somewhere between $1400-2000 in 1996-2000 when I got my first degree.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:14 pm to
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The reason why Baton Rouge is cheap is because it's an economic shithole with few opportunities outside of a few industries.

Most metros with decent job markets cost a frick ton. Using BR as an example is silly.


First, I was responding to a poster that said you can't find anything worth living in BR for $160K. So I wasn't using it as an example in general.

He was wrong.

Second, if you look back a page you would see that BR sits about the 75th percentile for median home values in the top 100 largest metro areas and that there is only about a $35,000 different between it and the 50th percentile which would stand to reason that there are affordable options all over those cities as well. They include:

Springfield, Mass. 200,000
Tucson, Ariz. 198,000
Jacksonville, Fla. 195,000
Dallas, Texas 195,000
New Haven, Conn. 194,000
Lancaster, Pa. 190,000
Tampa, Fla. 189,000
Omaha, Neb. 180,000
Milwaukee, Wis. 179,000
Houston, Texas 178,000
Greenville, S.C. 170,000
Louisville, Ky. 168,000
Albuquerque, N.M. 167,000
Lakeland, Fla. 165,000
Harrisburg, Pa. 163,000
Knoxville, Tenn. 162,000
Chattanooga, Tenn. 158,000
Augusta, Ga. 155,000
San Antonio, Texas 153,000
Oklahoma City, Okla. 148,000
Winston-Salem, N.C. 144,000
Kansas City, Mo. 143,000
Greensboro, N.C. 140,000
Columbia, S.C. 139,000
Pittsburgh, Pa. 138,000
Rochester, N.Y. 137,000
Cleveland, Ohio 128,000
Indianapolis, Ind. 125,000


So are you telling me that all these cities are "economic shitholes" with few opportunities.



Because this starting to sound a lot like a bullshite narrative based on a handful of outlying huge urban areas that people blindly repeat despite actual evidence to the contrary.

Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Pittsburgh


TBH I've heard a large swath of this area is a shithole.

quote:

Oklahoma City


Yeah idk bout that one hoss. I'm no cowbaw. Not saying OKC sucks. It's just not a top 15 place on my list.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43448 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Dallas, Texas 195,000


This is a lie.

Maybe South of I-30.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:16 pm to
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Um, you are still a millenial


Just barely




quote:

I am referring to cost for the boomer generation, not millenials


Supply and demand. I know that tuition prices have gone up. I'm not debating that. It's more about people who understand the actual value of a degree and pay accordingly and those that spend atrocious amounts of money to boutique universities for a worthless degree.

Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:18 pm to
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TBH I've heard a large swath of this area is a shithole. Oklahoma City Yeah idk bout that one hoss. I'm no cowbaw. Not saying OKC sucks. It's just not a top 15 place on my list.

Pittsburgh has some nice areas and suburbs. My point is simply that most young people could find good jobs in less expensive real estate markets, they just don't want to live there.

That's fine but expect to pay a premium for it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Supply and demand. I know that tuition prices have gone up. I'm not debating that. It's more about people who understand the actual value of a degree and pay accordingly and those that spend atrocious amounts of money to boutique universities for a worthless degree.

More millienals are gradating with STEM degrees at a higher % than any generation before them. So this argument never holds water honestly
Posted by Uhtred
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Member since Sep 2018
945 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:19 pm to
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I'm not debating that. It's more about people who understand the actual value of a degree and pay accordingly and those that spend atrocious amounts of money to boutique universities for a worthless degree.
You may not be debating that. But he was saying that the Boomer generation was not saddled with student loan debt like so many late Gen Xers and Millenials.

I actually got paid to go to undergrad at LSU (all hail, TOPS), but after grad school (at a different school... good, not great... certainly not 'boutique') I had roughly $90,000 in student loans. I wouldn't take it back. It was a good decision and has set me up for a nice career. However, it's something that prior generations can't relate to.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49400 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Yeah idk bout that one hoss. I'm no cowbaw. Not saying OKC sucks. It's just not a top 15 place on my list.



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This is a lie.


And this is why no one has any sympathy for you.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43448 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:20 pm to
Also for the sake of not being obtuse and bloviating random garbage without research here's just one app:



The dots along the DNT are purchasable apartments that are smaller than the one I rent currently.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:21 pm to
Blame others, the millenial mantra.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43448 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:21 pm to
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And this is why no one has any sympathy for you.


I dont need anything from you baw.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49400 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:22 pm to
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But he was saying that the Boomer generation was not saddled with student loan debt like so many late Gen Xers and Millenials.


I get that and we can go into why that is (cheap government loans and the "everybody has to go to college" mentality) but there are still reasonably affordable options to get a good degree everywhere.

quote:

I actually got paid to go to LSU (all hail, TOPS), but after grad school I had roughly $90,000 in student loans.


Same. And paid it all off in five years. It really wasn't difficult.

Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:23 pm to
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More millienals are gradating with STEM degrees at a higher % than any generation before them.


That is kind of my point from earlier. These degrees aren't what they used to be because so many people have them. When you and I were in school a college degree meant something. Now a basic bachelor is like a high school degree when we were in college.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13079 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:23 pm to
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You can definitely find a home in a few of the suburbs for that price too


In the burbs? Easily. But if you want to live near work, it's difficult. Traffic absolutely sucks so the prices of homes near any big area is atrocious. I'd like to see some of these 160k homes that you can buy in Baton Rouge that aren't completely outdated or in the ghetto.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:24 pm to
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90,000
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paid it all off in five years.
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wasn't difficult.
If you are saying paying 90k off in 5 years isnt difficult like that should be expected, I just dont kno what to say
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:24 pm to
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But if you want to live near work


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completely outdated


sigh.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111390 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:25 pm to
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That is kind of my point from earlier. These degrees aren't what they used to be because so many people have them. When you and I were in school a college degree meant something. Now a basic bachelor is like a high school degree when we were in college.
Wait I am so confused. Were you trolling earlier


What you just said is one of the reasons the younger generation actually faces a more expensive road ahead
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43448 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:25 pm to
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If you are saying paying 90k off in 5 years isnt difficult like that should be expected, I just dont kno what to say




I dont know too many graduates who have 18k a year after taxes to push toward a loan + other expenses.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49400 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:26 pm to
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The dots along the DNT are purchasable apartments that are smaller than the one I rent currently.


Why wouldn't you buy one instead of rent? Do you not understand how real estate investments work?

You're proving my point.
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